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Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
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"Tom Stangl" <tom.stangl@sun.com> wrote in message news:3BC3637E.62D9EAD4@sun.com...
Lawrence Wilkes wrote:

"Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <talonts@vfaq.com> wrote in message news:3BC2954C.27A2A300@vfaq.com...


You're comparing vastly different countries, with different mindsets.  Compare
within a country, especially within the US, and you'll see that states that allow
easy lawful access to guns tend to have lower violent crime rates.

How are the US, Canada, and the UK "vastly different countries, with different mindsets"?

How are they NOT?  While they share many similarities, can you seriously say the mindset of the
country as a whole is the same between them?

I think it depends on the intepretation of 'vast'.

US, Iran, Thailand - now thats more like vast.
US, Canada, UK - that's just shades of grey in my book.

Canada and the UK seem to lean too far to the Socialist side compared to the US, IMO.  There are
many other differences, and I'm sure many others in here can bring them up if needed.

Being more socialist doesnt make them socialist. Still shades of grey. Real socialists would think none of them
socialist.

Not hardly.  Canada and the UK don't have the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights
as their basis (and neither will the US if some foamers have their way!).

So what.
Because we don't have one doesn't mean our values, culture, etc are that different.

regards
lawrence



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  Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
 
(...) It means that we have a legal framework which reflects the way we live today. We are not held ransom by a bunch of politically appointed lawyers arguing over semantics based on a centuries old piece of paper. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Violence created by presence of guns? (was: Gotta love Oracle...)
 
(...) In the large, more similar than different (and did I say "thank you Great Britain" yet today? Consider it said, and ditto for Canada, two true friends). But I think the point is that when comparing this particular facet, they are different (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) How are they NOT? While they share many similarities, can you seriously say the mindset of the country as a whole is the same between them? Canada and the UK seem to lean too far to the Socialist side compared to the US, IMO. There are many (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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