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		Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
(...) Trot them out, then. Or far better, and far far far more relevant, answer the main point, that most (not all!!!) homeless Americans deserve it because of the choices they made. Unlike almost all homeless Ugandans or Tibetians or Kurds or (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
Sorry, this got long, and you probably won't like it, but there is plenty to argue with. Richard Franks wrote in message ... (...) a (...) of? (...) lot (...) recieve? (...) tax (...) up (...) millions of (...) it (...) Very likely, depending on (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: RFC: An Alternative..
(...) Which flow of money? Apart from the minimal tax (admistration+State Responsibility fees (which pays for national defence and other things of that nature)), the flow of money is entirely up to the aggregate group. Ie, a community, town, region, (...) (25 years ago, 13-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
(...) Yes, and I've seen other such texts. I certainly wouldn't want a one-world government like that, and that's not what I'm advocating at all! (...) Ok, now we're back to the rights discussion. I don't see how a corporation gets the right to do (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Capital Ideas
(...) Yeah, I can't see why Padilla can't be given his rights, due process, equal protection, trial by jury for treason, right to appeal, and then hung upside down by the short-hairs until he is dead either... I mean, the guy is an american however (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
Richard Franks wrote in message ... (...) It hasn't been proven, but hasn't seen its chance yet either. Larry made a very good point last night - Libertarianism is working, despite all the regulation in the world. It can/will work. (...) ideas (...) (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
(...) Yes, I posted some things in a sarcastic tone. That doesn't mean I wasn't serious. But the fact that you weren't amused underlines the point that we disagree at an extremely basic level. So discussing the question of rights makes a lot of (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
(...) I have no problem at all with such a request. My answer is "do it yourself, ya lazy B'stard", of course. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 'free goods', though. BTW, I've been meaning to ask you, how do you feel about intellectual (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
Jasper Janssen wrote in message <38aee357.975055273@...et.com>... (...) I haven't researched Libertarianism, but I think I will check the links at about.com within the next day or two. I have never heard of a brand of Libertarianism that struck me (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Swearing?
(...) I'm not convinced that it's all that clear cut. I have observed age-peers of mine who are markedly less worldly and make stupid decisions about their lives. At what magic age is one fully capable of making decisions such that we can (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
Here I go again! James Brown wrote in message ... (...) general (...) quite (...) to (...) You cynic! :-) You are right - many peope are only as industrious as they have to be. Does this mean I am a cynic, too? No. I think the purpose of (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
Matt, (...) Yes, but without the Declaration, we would have no Constitution, or Bill of Rights. Clearly the intent of the Founding Fathers is here.. but this isn't what I was talking about. (...) I think that the Constitution outlined the concept of (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
(...) I am not for the leftist view of government taxing us to death for everyone's ability to have health care, education, etc. I work two jobs, I am starting my own business, and I think the left's view of these being rights is both absurd and (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
(...) Ah.. this explains all. G Dubya Bush. (...) "and I was wrong AND HERE'S WHAT I AM GOING TO DO ABOUT IT:"[emphasis mine]? Neither did Frank answer that one, BTW. Although I inferred that to Frank, "here's what I am going to do about it" would (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
(...) Well, it speaks (Looking at my CATO supplied Constitution & Bill of Rights) , "the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God...." for one (In the Declaration of Independence). The concept of natural law, in (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Brad - TLC needs to minimize packaging
(...) Simplistic answer is that they DID have cash to spend, it was economic boycott that finally broke the "back of the bus" thing with buses, and was going to break down a great deal more quite soon. As for the legal barriers, Laws REQUIRING (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
(...) I stepped back a bit, and I suspect that what is frustrating both of us, leading to perhaps less well reasoned posts than normal on one or both sides, is that we're trying to discuss several things at once. Perhaps we should pick one topic, (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
Richard Franks wrote in message ... (...) has (...) Ooh, even before I got better, I would never have supported this... (...) otherwise (...) sponsered (...) any (...) I used to have this opinion. My feeling now is that anything worthwhile that the (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
(...) Many rights are things we as a society make up. (As opposed to being somehow natural or god-given.) That doesn't mean that they're not good ideas! Why isn't it good to say that all people deserve be taken care of when they're sick? (...) Oh (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
<3874CFB7.C78E8E40@voyager.net> <FnxHxs.MKz@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps a workable patent system could be constructed which would recognize parallel development. I don't even see (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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