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Re: Support for a 'young' earth.
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Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:18:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Culberson writes:

>   Of course not, much as without the Bible and the calculations of
>   the venerable Archbishop Ussher in the 18th century, Young Earth
>   Creationism also doesn't have a leg to stand on.  (It's probably
>   the only science I know that openly relies upon such old ideas
>   for a young Earth. It's rather ironic, really.)

1650 for Bishop Ussher (and some further expansion in 1654).  17th century.

> 
> > Despite claims that all evidence points to a multi-billion year old
> > earth and that a 6000 year old one is impossible, that simply isn't
> > true.  There is evidence to support a young earth that interestingly
> > enough "fits" perfectly with the creation record.  Below are three
> > examples:
> 
>   Just because something fits timewise doesn't make it so.
> 
> > Slowing Earth Rotation:
> > 
> > The speed of the earth's rotation is slowing down.  Approx every 1-1/2
> > years another second is added to "the clock" in order to match calendar
> > time.
> 
>   This is wrong, wrong, wrong.  This addition doesn't have to do
>   with the slowing of the Earth; it has to do with the way humans
>   measure time.  The solar year does not divide evenly into the
>   units of time we recognise.  Our calendar has been tweaked and
>   tweaked (remember adding almost two weeks a few hundred years
>   back?), and now, with the leap-year system and judicious addition
>   of a second here and there, we've ensured that the same months
>   coincide with winter each year, summer each year, etc., etc.
> 
>   So this isn't evidence of the Earth's slowing, it's evidence
>   of mankind's inability to measure it accurately until the very
>   recent past.  Creationists like to pretend that human measures
>   are perfect enough to reflect accurately what's seen.  They're
>   not; they are only representations designed for human enterprise
>   and convenience in understanding a universe of infinite complexity.

The earth is slowing.  Tidal forces are doing it, similiar to what the earth
has already done to the moon, just a lot weaker.  If one considers the 8
hour workday, we will get more time off in the future!  ;-)

Bruce



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  Re: Support for a 'young' earth.
 
(...) Ack, you're right. I have no idea why I typed 18th. Do I have to give back my Secret Historian Decoder Ring and washroom key now? :( I should always remember to check my desiderata. But in any case, it just strengthens my point. And actually, (...) (26 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) I'll point to the talk.origins clearinghouse site, which is one of the best catch-all refutations of the Creationist argument (and exploration of misconceptions about Evolution that cause otherwise intelligent people to subscribe to Creation (...) (26 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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