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| | | (...) Good. I can now safely ignore the rest of your blathering. a (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —John Neal
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| | | | (...) Ideas don't have nationalities. They either have merit or not. Yours didn't for the reasons I gave. You obviously thought it did. So the arguments are laid out. As if it weren't ever safe to ignore my blathering. JOHN (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Timothy Gould
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| | | | (...) Actually, I think you'll find the considered merit of ideas have quite distinct nationalities. For example most of the developed world considers the idea of capital punishment abhorrent and barbaric whilst the USA considers it to be in (...) (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —John Neal
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| | | | (...) I disagree. Your perception that the USA is in any way unified on the topic of capital punishment is incorrect-- just ask ==>Bruce<== or Dave! It's funny. Ask any American how they feel about capital punishment; I would guess most people would (...) (19 years ago, 24-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | (...) I never said it was unified, but I believe a majority of USAians support it (and thus, through democratic process the USA supports it) in principle at the least and a significantly higher proportion believe in the practise of it than in any (...) (19 years ago, 24-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) It is currently a state issue, not a federal one. Some states have the death penalty, some don't (16 of 50 don't I believe). (...) I only mention it to illustrate how hard it is to get a response on the death penalty were one to try and take a (...) (19 years ago, 24-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | I think we pretty much agree about the differences in attitude to capital punishment so... --SNIP-- (...) All I hear about the USAs medical system is people dying on the street or in ambulances waiting to find a hospital to save their life. This is (...) (19 years ago, 24-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Johannes Koehler
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| | | | | | Hello! (...) They probably are already breeding an army in order to invade Nigeria or Venezuela to get their oil. As for the original topic of this thread: I just wanted to know what makes "Nazi" fascinating for you. ("you" as in a general "you", (...) (19 years ago, 28-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Mike Yoder
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| | | | | | | (...) I am from the United States of America, and I must admit that there are many things that fascinate me about the rise to power of Hitler and the Nazi party. The questions I hear most people say include, "How could a whole country allow such an (...) (19 years ago, 29-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) Huh? (...) Your equivocation is offensive at best. You'd better study your history better in order to be unaffected by its cyclical nature.... (...) ...because if this possibility is even remotely on your radar then you are not paying very (...) (19 years ago, 29-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Mike Yoder
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| | | | | | | | (...) Lets see if I'm paying attention. Hatecrimes in the U.S against Muslims or anyone who even looks Muslim have risen dramatically since 911 and the War on Terrorism began. The U.S government regularly sends reconnaissance teams to spy on Mosques (...) (19 years ago, 30-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) Cites? (...) And you think this is a bad idea? (...) Are they illegals? (which would mean that the very first thing they did upon entering the US was break the law) (...) You make this sound like an everyday occurrence. We have done this to (...) (19 years ago, 30-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Mike Yoder
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| | | | | | | | | (...) The analogy is tired, but it is a good example of a modern western leader elected in a democratic process with promises to make the average citizen's life better who ended up bringing devastation to his country and the world. We obviously have (...) (19 years ago, 30-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) So, you are saying that our current government has brought devastation to our country and the world, is that correct? (...) That well may be true, but it is not necessarily my objective to move you on any particular position, but at least to (...) (19 years ago, 1-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Mike Yoder
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes! Mostly economic and social destuction, but in Iraq physical destruction as well! Recently South Korean farmers publicly commited suicide as an act of protest against flooding their countries markets with cheap (...) (19 years ago, 1-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Economic destruction? All I've seen is 2 of the most horrific economic disasters strike during Bush's tenure (9-11 and Katrina, neither of which can be attributed to the Bush Administration), and yet our economy still grows. To what economic (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Mike Yoder
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) First of all, you gotta think globally for a minute. Believe it or not, there's a whole world out there beyond our borders, and our actions have consequences that can be felt throughout. But now that you mention OUR economy, to what indicators (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | | (...) So why do you (URL) call them "islamo-fascists">, and not "alleged terrorists"???? ROSCO (19 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) I was speaking specifically about the people who are incarcerated. The purpose of their detention is what they've done, not what they believe (although it is the motivation behind what they did). So my point was that we do not simply detain (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | (...) But that's the whole problem. The only evidence we have that these detainees are terrorists is, basically, Dubya's assertion that they're terrorists. They're denied all due process and access to lawyers, and in many cases they've been held for (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) Enemy combatants are treated differently than US citizens. This has always been the case. (...) Well, if you had Christian leaders invecting from the pulpit to incarcerate Muslims, I might be inclined to agree (which is the analogy to Mullahs (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | (...) In fact, this has only "always" been the case since Dubya created the term "enemy combatant" out of the firmament. It didn't exist prior to his declaration of permanent war on terror, at least not as a supra-legal designator for "people whom (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Anita Eenink
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| | | | | | (...) I can only speak on my own experience as to why I find it an interesting subject. My parents lived in Holland during the Nazi occupation and so have told me stories (especially my father as my mother was very young at the time) about things (...) (19 years ago, 30-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Rückkehr der Raumnazin —Allister McLaren
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| | | | (...) I guess at least that gives me a better idea of what you find funny. (19 years ago, 24-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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