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This makes good reading: The truth about Jessica (URL) was like a Hollywood film. They cried, 'Go, go, go', with guns and blanks and the sound of explosions. They made a show - an action movie like Sylvester Stallone or Jackie Chan, with jumping (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Jessica's rescue, the toppling of the statue, Colin Powell's briefing--all faked for the mass television audience. And yet, there's the majority of the US audience, just gobbling it up. Standing ovation for the wonderful acting to all (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wonder if they used that same film crew that rigged up that whole moon landing thing. I file this whole discussion right there along with Elvis sightings and the black helicopters. Scott C. (22 years ago, 15-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So which point do you take exception to, Scott? "We know that SH has WoMD and we know where they are!" (pause long enuf to have a war about it) "Well, we're withdrawing our inspectors next month 'cause we didn't find anything..." Conspiracies? (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Because we all know how the BBC is prone to hperbole, and "faking the truth" whenever it can... (URL) it still a 'conspiracy nutter' story now? Or is it perhaps closer to the truth? Stop with the talk of anything that doesn't conform to the US (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This criticism still amazes me, although it wasn't unexpected. Presidents, and other political leaders have been misusing taxpayer money on these kinds of things for years. If Bush was simply looking for a photo-op he would have done this in (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Costello writes: <snip> (...) Ahh, there it is. If it isn't USA, it's no way. Got it. Perhaps you wish to reconsider? Dave K (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Crazy world, eh David? Nobody over here seems to understand that truth dealing is the way to make the U.S. a better place -- it's always some nonsense about patriotism, or national security, or counter-terrorism. And here I thought the truth (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I realize that you have some internal connect between politics and religion, but for me I tend to keep those two worlds completely separate. My political views have little to do with my religious views, please try to stay focused. (...) My (...) (22 years ago, 15-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nevertheless, your mistrust is not at all misplaced. The BBC, despite being government funded, isn't exactly hewing to reality, much less hewing to the Labour party line, at least according to some observers. Your mileage may vary, of course. (22 years ago, 16-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You mean like when he landed on the aircaft carrier? ;) Scott A (22 years ago, 16-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you saying it can't be trusted? Shame on you sir! (...) Nonsense! It is funded by the public through a licence fee [~UKP100 / US$160] for every viewing household & through sales of its products. Fantastic value when you think about it. (...) (22 years ago, 16-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *shakes head* Scott A (22 years ago, 16-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes: <snip> (...) And not made up like the NY Times... Ooops--US news sources are fallible! Did I say that out loud? If you want to keep your head in the sand, then that's your choice. Don't admonish those (...) (22 years ago, 16-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<reinserted a few quotes that David snipped, but I think i've got the attributions right, apologies if I flubbed> (...) Sorry, how is a license fee that one *must* pay (or be in violation of law), and which is collected *by the government*, and then (...) (22 years ago, 16-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *WRONG* there is no "must". One only has to pay if the household has a TV. (...) It is collected by the BBC [well actually their appointed agent]. (...) You are squirming. (...) *sigh* I see your point Larry… but its pretty tenuous. The fact (...) (22 years ago, 16-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) Well, I'd start with a variety of sources, instead of just one or two that tell us what we want to hear, or worse, tell us what they want us to hear and filter out that which may (...) (22 years ago, 16-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Excellent advice. But you'd agree that some sources are more credible than others, right? Or would you tend to view all sources with equal credulity? I would think not, and further, I would think that a source that tends to be factually (...) (22 years ago, 16-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Fix a small typo... capitalized area of repair for emphasis (...) SHOULD read Or would you tend to view all sources with equal credulity? I would think not, and further, I would think that a source that tends to be factually correct, even if their (...) (22 years ago, 17-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I find arguing about these distinctions in a thread about the way fiction as reality is being foisted upon us by the current administration increasingly laughable. Where are the WMD? When precisely are we pulling out of Iraq? Why were the (...) (22 years ago, 18-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) Well, I don't treat my life like it's made up of binary management--if we remove certain criteria, then we allow *everyting*. I thought it would be inferred by my slam towards the Nat. (...) (22 years ago, 20-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you saying plagiarism is ~OK~. I think that is the wrong sort of signal to send. (...) Ah! So it's Larry who is the plagiarist; I wondered whom he was talking about! ;) Scott A (22 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In what way is the Guardian not "reliable"? You may not find it "reliable", but you do cite it when the text is right [eg]: (URL)The NYT in particular, lies (...) If all that is true, let the market damn them both and FoxNews can prevail! (...) (22 years ago, 21-May-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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