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(...) Why is it that when Limbaugh, Reagan, Gallagher, Buchannan, Falwell, Robertson, Carlson, Will, O'Reilly et al spout pro-Republican invective it's called "fair and balanced reporting," but when a left-leaning commentator voices n opinion it's (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let me also point out what Pat B is saying about Canadians--"Look at all we have done for them and they continue to whine." K, Pat, I'm sitting here waiting for you to list all the great and wondrous things you "'Mericans" have done for us (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think you have it backwards, Dave! None of the above would claim to be unbiased-- they are honest and open about their conservative leanings. It's the print media, the networks, public radio who disingenuously pass themselves off as "fair (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You mean "VW"? And would that be before or after his sex change operation? -John (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He'd take public transportation, without a doubt. The Apostles would shift for themselves (was that an unintentional anti-automatic transmission joke?). I suppose the more interesting question is what would Satan drive? -->Bruce<-- Who drives (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd also go with the VW bus. I think it has to do with the stereotypical image of Jesus left over from Sunday school mixed up with childhood memories of hippies-- it's easy to imagine Jesus driving up Highway 1 giving rides to hitchhiking (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just like a rebellious child: his dad had a Plymouth (God drove Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, "in a Fury!" - thank you, Scott Ostler). Yeah, if Jesus had to actually drive himself (SoCAl) it would be a VW MicroBus. (...) I thought the (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't know-- Jesus was too much on the straight and narrow to drive a fried-out Combi. I'd see him more at the helm of the Patridge Family bus, and if he were driving in road-rage-ravaged LA, the sign on the back of the bus would say, (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're injecting another issue into the discussion, which I will address in a moment. In any case, let's consider what you're saying: You're claiming that conservative talking heads can't be called demagogues as long as they are open about (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Rome vs. Carthage, the three Punic Wars. The third was pure force, resulting in the total anihilation of Carthage (even in physical terms) and enslavement of the surviving carthaginians. That is, in fact, a permanent solution. Question is, is (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Read of the end of Carthage: (URL) skip the last paragraph where Scipio compares Carthage to Troy. Innumerable wars have ended with complete annihilation of the enemy. The world is littered with dead cities, dead languages, untraceable peoples. The (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One could compare it to a much more present situation :-) (funny how History repeats itself over and over again) (...) Are you sure that so many wars ended that way? From my own experience, I think it's a lot more common that the "losers" of (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That might be more common. Could ask the Statistics of Deadly Quarrels research folks about the majority. So maybe not so many whole civilizations, but certainly city-states and isolated population centers. Philip II at Thebes. Alexander at (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fair enough :-) (...) That is true, although it does not tell us what happened to the slaves *in time*: did their descendents eventually gain citizenship? Were they assimilated? The city state, having been overrun, was it rebuilt? Did the (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think we can agree that wackos come in all favors. (...) I am not for silencing criticism, but I think that insults are not necessary. How about *constuctive* criticism-- that's what I'd like. (...) I don't watch TV, much less own cable, so (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who knows? But there are not too many identifiable folk who have not assimilated. That nobody really understands precisely what a helot was, is one demonstration. I know of a story of one annihilated city whose survivors petitioned their (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree 100%. But the problem is that conservatives in general (and, honestly, you in particular, in OT.debate at least) tend to castigate liberal commentators for doing exactly the same things for which conservative commentators are lauded. (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I recall a NG documentary where the explorers dug a basement in Jericho (sp?), and found an almost complete arsenal of human arms since Ancient Times to 1947 Independance war of Israel. In *a single* basement... so I can understand what you (...) (22 years ago, 27-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | What does a Republican have to do to cause outrage? [was Re: Not embarassed to be a Canadian...]
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(...) I fear the strong pro-liberal media in the USA has struck again. I read this yesterday: It's a dirty business (URL) then it is extraordinary what you do and don't hear in the US at present. Last Thursday, as predicted in this column a (...) (22 years ago, 11-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Everything I read about this issue tells me that Strom 'renounced' his segregationalist views, that he became more moderate thru the years. Times changed and so did Strom. Lott, on the other hand, still hasn't clarified what he meant by "All (...) (22 years ago, 11-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) While I can only speak from my perspective as a denizen of that burning hotbed of bleeding heart liberalism, Northern California, that isn't true at all from what I can tell. Lott's comment has been the primary topic of every talk radio host (...) (22 years ago, 11-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have no love for Lott and certainly not for Thurmond. I just have one question, where does the "blatantly racist" charge come from with respect to Goldwater's campaign? I'm wondering if that reveals a tendency for the Guardian to play loose (...) (22 years ago, 11-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wonder ye not! If you check again carefully, you will see it is quoted from the "Irish Times" - ie **NOT** The Guardian. What was that about playing loose and fast? ;) However, I think the racist tag refers to his alleged support for "states' (...) (22 years ago, 11-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Point taken. It's hard to know when he wrote the text. The story [of the fuss] even made it to the BBC TV news last night [for 10 seconds max!]. I think the story actually says more about the Democrats than it does the media or the (...) (22 years ago, 13-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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