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Subject: 
 Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
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 lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
 Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:49:13 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Ed Jones wrote:
> > 
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > Ed Jones wrote a message that Larry has paraphrased incorrectly below:
> > > <the republicans tried to get clinton because he slept around>
> 
> Sorry, but that's what I distilled out. You spent two paragraphs trying
> to explain Clinton's crime as "he slept around, which is not a crime"
> and one sentence on the theme below.

Ok, I can see where you were coming from.

> > No, the republicans have been using ever possible dirt digging tactic they • can
> > find since Clinton won in 1992.  This was just another attempt by the • Elephant
> > heads to make a mountain out of a molehill to make themselves appear to be • the
> > "moral" party.  Nothing could be further from the truth.
> 
> Granted that what you say is true(1), I'm just confining my remarks to
> the question at hand. Whatever other sins That Man has (and there are
> plenty), the question at hand turns on whether he is a perjurer. That's
> the issue, and the fact that the elephantheads are bozos using it for
> their own sick and twisted political ends does not detract from the
> facts.
> 
> - He is a perjurer, proven so, and admitted so
> - Perjury is a high crime
> - High crimes are impeachable offenses
> - The impeachment happened, there was a vote to go to trial.
> - He was acquitted (that's the way the process works. you can be
> admittedly guilty of the crime and still be acquitted. Working as
> designed. I'm fine with that)
> - so that particular impeachment is over and done with

While I do not deny that he perjured, my point is that the majority of
Americans view that perjury as a non-perjury, and certainly not impeachable.
And the entire investigation as a waste of tax payer money.



Message has 16 Replies:
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) Funny, Ed, that you consider if the public knows about law or not, is better than the judicial system? Public opinion does not weigh in the rule of law. Sorry. I would not want to be tried in that court, then. And since when did you guys worry (...) (25 years ago, 26-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) Huh???? Public opinion does not weigh in the rule of law. (...) Wrong, public opinion has a whole lot to do with law. How do you think most laws get made/changed/deleted - public opinion warrants a change in the law. (...) Exactly who is "you (...) (25 years ago, 26-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) So if the majority of Americans decided that homosexuality was a jailable offense, you'd be all right with that? The law is the law, and until the law says something different, the opinions of a few thousand Americans asked for any given poll (...) (25 years ago, 26-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) Either you have a pretty funny sense of what art is or you've never seen some of the things the NEA has funded. The NRA can fall off the face of the planet as far as I'm concerned, but the NEA might as well join them for all the use I have for (...) (25 years ago, 26-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) Do you agree with the mob rule mentality, then? people should be tried on public opinion rather than a courtroom? So if I say you should be killed, and 500 other people want to, then it is OK? That is baffling! Just because the public opinion (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) uhhh.. pardom me if I.Q.s just dropped sharply while i was away (name that movie!)... but isn't that the definition of a little thing called democracy??? (first, let me state that the issue you spoke is irrelevant in my arguement, i don't want (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) This was written in response to Ed basically saying that because "a majority" of Americans believe what Clinton did was not commit perjury (since he was lying about his sex life, I guess) that we should somehow view the fact that he DID commit (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
<FH531u.BBy@lugnet.com> <37C88E50.5B325C68@eclipse.net> <FH7C2I.GF3@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Well, I and certain other reasonable people seem to agree. Let's just go with that. :-) (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Name That Movie (Was: Misperceptions of America)
 
<FH531u.BBy@lugnet.com> <37C6EE83.FBFCE338@io.com> <FH54wB.Dtp@lugnet.com> <FHA9s5.25D@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) "As you wish!" (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: Name That Movie (Was: Misperceptions of America)
 
<FH531u.BBy@lugnet.com> <37C6EE83.FBFCE338@io.com> <FH54wB.Dtp@lugnet.com> <FHA9s5.25D@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Of course not, it's one of my favorites. Now what we need is (...) (25 years ago, 2-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: Name That Movie (Was: Misperceptions of America)
 
OK, here's one: "See that Armory? Run around it!" Scott S. (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: Name That Movie (Was: Misperceptions of America)
 
James, Wow, I thought that was an obscure line. Yes, I know, I saw the movie first before reading the book, and it is very much off, but I still enjoyed it tremendously! (...) Liberal? Politically or the off-the-book? I thought it was a great (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: Name That Movie (Was: Misperceptions of America)
 
Interesting description, it certainly has it faults, but I still like it. I don't know why, it is just me, I guess! :) Scott S. (...) Scott E. Sanburn CADD Operator, CADD Systems Administrator Affiliated Engineers, Inc. Ann Arbor, MI Work Page: (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: Name That Movie (Was: Misperceptions of America)
 
(...) Oh, it wasn't a great movie, but I liked some of it. (Nowadays, that is all I can ask for!) I read the book after watching the movie, they are not similar. (...) As would I.... (...) Really? I did not pick the consumer part at all, the fascist (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: Name That Movie (Was: Misperceptions of America)
 
James Brown wrote in message ... (...) of (...) I Loved "the Secret of NIMH", the book, that is. It was one of those books that I read when I was younger, and then when I tried to find it later in life, I had a devil of a time trying to find out the (...) (25 years ago, 17-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: Name That Movie (Was: Misperceptions of America)
 
Sproaticus wrote in message <37E265B1.5FCD18E@io.com>... <snip> (...) All (...) Waterworld (...) <snip> Hmmm... Now that you mention it, I'll ( grudgingly ) have to admit that he did a good job in "Dances with Wolves". And although I liked "Robin (...) (25 years ago, 17-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) Sorry, but that's what I distilled out. You spent two paragraphs trying to explain Clinton's crime as "he slept around, which is not a crime" and one sentence on the theme below. (...) Granted that what you say is true(1), I'm just confining (...) (25 years ago, 26-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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