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Re: Special Identification for Arab Americans?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 25 Sep 2001 13:13:44 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > From you know who... The poll results scare the JEEPERS out of me.
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> That *is* kind of scary. It should serve as an indication of
> how fundamental the crisis of such thinking is, that groups
> from the far-right *and* the far-left are willing to work
> together with a broad spectrum of groups in between to oppose
> this sort of Fascistic thing.
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> Consider the US Islamic population as our mineshaft canary.
> If our government begins to whittle away their civil rights,
> we're on the precipice of doom.
Agreed, agreed...
> I'm also concerned that people
> think this is a *real* war--11 September's attacks were criminal,
> they were murderous and evil, but calling them "war" is a
> measure designed to justify an exaggerated military response
> both internally and externally.
Well I've just come off (or maybe still am in) a huge row with ROSCO about
semantics around "pacifist" (I still don't get what point he is trying to
make) so maybe this is semantics but I am not sure I understand.
Why isn't this a war? Does a war have to be with a country? bin Laden
declared war on *us* explicitly. We had a war with the Barbary Pirates, they
weren't a country.
++Lar
> best
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> LFB
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) I'll take a shot at trying to figure out what LFB meant... I think what is being suggested is that the term "war" is cheapened when used in the manner it has been for the last three decades or so. I am referring to phrases like the "war on (...) (25 years ago, 25-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: Special Identification for Arab Americans?
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| (...) It *is* semantics. But it's very important semantics. When you hear "war" today, do you think most Americans instantly think "Oh, war. Tripoli, 1801-1805. Of course." Or do they think WWII, Vietnam, or the Gulf? I'd bet dollars to donuts (...) (25 years ago, 25-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) That *is* kind of scary. It should serve as an indication of how fundamental the crisis of such thinking is, that groups from the far-right *and* the far-left are willing to work together with a broad spectrum of groups in between to oppose (...) (25 years ago, 25-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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