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Re: Plane crash in New York?
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Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:45:32 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
no religion can condone what happened on Tuesday.

I generally agreed with what you said Scott, so I am just picking at the
details here...

I think you meant that "no religion SHOULD condone what happened on
Tuesday."  Sadly, many faiths do suborn the use of violence to an almost
epic scale -- chech out "Joshua" (a.k.a. "The Book of the Conquest") in the
Old Testament (if you are Christian/Catholic), or The Tanakh (if you are
Jewish):
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<of Jericho...>
6:21
And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman,
young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.

<skipping a bit...>

10:30
And the LORD delivered it also, and the king thereof, into the hand of
Israel; and he smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that
were therein; he let none remain in it; but did unto the king thereof as he
did unto the king of Jericho.

10:31
And Joshua passed from Libnah, and all Israel with him, unto Lachish, and
encamped against it, and fought against it:

10:32
And the LORD delivered Lachish into the hand of Israel, which took it on the
second day, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that
were therein, according to all that he had done to Libnah.

10:33
Then Horam king of Gezer came up to help Lachish; and Joshua smote him and
his people, until he had left him none remaining.

10:34
And from Lachish Joshua passed unto Eglon, and all Israel with him; and they
encamped against it, and fought against it:

10:35
And they took it on that day, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and
all the souls that were therein he utterly destroyed that day, according to
all that he had done to Lachish.

10:36
And Joshua went up from Eglon, and all Israel with him, unto Hebron; and
they fought against it:

10:37
And they took it, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and the king
thereof, and all the cities thereof, and all the souls that were therein; he
left none remaining, according to all that he had done to Eglon; but
destroyed it utterly, and all the souls that were therein.

10:38
And Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, to Debir; and fought against it:

10:39
And he took it, and the king thereof, and all the cities thereof; and they
smote them with the edge of the sword, and utterly destroyed all the souls
that were therein; he left none remaining: as he had done to Hebron, so he
did to Debir, and to the king thereof; as he had done also to Libnah, and to
her king.

10:40
So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the
vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but
utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded.

10:41
And Joshua smote them from Kadeshbarnea even unto Gaza, and all the country
of Goshen, even unto Gibeon.

10:42
And all these kings and their land did Joshua take at one time, because the
LORD God of Israel fought for Israel.

10:43
And Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, unto the camp to Gilgal.

-- these quotes are from the King James Version of the bible:
http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Joshua/index.html
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Don't these descriptions sort of make Joshua and his followers (yea, ye may
call them even the Israelites!) the neutron bomb of the ancient world?  I
mean, the only thing left standing is the buildings in most cases, right? I
guess some of the time they liked to keep the livestock and gold and such too...

Most people can find the follower of a nutty, violence-loving religion by
looking in the mirror....

Get thee behind me, <your religion's name here>!!!

-- Hop-Frog (froggy suit back on that I might weather the coming s**tstorm)



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(...) hold on there - the fact that the bible describes violence doesn't in any way mean that either the Jewish or the Christian/Catholic religions condone such actions. Yes, there are many stories of war in the bible, but one of the 10 commendmends (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) That is tough without knowing who did it. But, I would say that the number one weapon should be education. As I have said before, if the group who did this use religion as a justification, the link between their religion and their act must be (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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