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  Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!")
 
(...) Carbon dating. Speed of light. (More specifically, observed doppler shift as pertains to stars (and other astronomical bodies), indicating direction, speed of travel & distance.) Two well established scientific processes, both of which (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!")
 
(...) And I have repeatedly asked you to provide an example showing their unlikeliness and telling me at least one or two available observations that don't support it. (Notice that I left out "Unverifiable" since the claims of Evolution are also (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A whole new debate.
 
(...) What sort of "cross" are you looking for? Do you require a fish with legs or an ape with gills? As Bruce points out correctly, *everything* is a transitional stage. I myself am a transitional point between my father and my son. The fact that (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why not Both?
 
(...) So, in other words, you refuse to admit that you might be wrong. James (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why not Both?
 
(...) I argue first and foremost that the Creation we see all around us is evidence of God's existence (as is mentioned in the Bible). I also argue that scientific evidence supports the Creation theory. Of course there's no proof, then there would (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why not Both?
 
(...) Before you assume that I am going to answer a question by simply stating "God's Plan" (which I agree is a cop-out if used as a response to every question), why don't you ask one. I will say, however, that you may insert "God's Plan" in front (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Macro-Evolution - Impossible!
 
(...) IANAP either, however: (URL) -TiM NB, CA (URL) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!")
 
(...) So how can one say that issuing a misleading textbook without pointing out the BLATANT errors isn't misleading the student? (...) There are a heck of a lot less evidences to discredit the above theories compared to Evolution. (here's 20 to (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Which was Created first man or animals?
 
(...) (URL) read: (URL) -TiM NB, CA (URL) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A whole new debate.
 
(...) And since you gave me a few huge websites to dig up the information I'll return the favor: (URL) links to: "What does the fossil record teach us about Evolution" (URL) there fossil evidence of 'missing links' between humans and apes? Did (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A whole new debate.
 
(...) Although indirectly it seems that you are agin debating terminology and avoiding the real question (unless you misunderstood what I (they) meant by "transitional". Why are there no fossils that demonstrate transitions between any modern (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Chaotic Systems... (was: Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism)
 
(...) I'm with Scott A. on this, while all patterns are equally likely (in a fair draw) to come up, if you want to maximize your expected result, choose patterns less likely to have been selected so you reduce the odds of splitting with someone (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Support for Creationism (was Re: Macro-Evolution - "Impossible!")
 
(...) I've detailed this in previous posts, including the following one where I made a distinction between evolution as a process and the theory of evolution: (URL) that we are discussing material presented in schools, and so I will reiterate here (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Chaotic Systems... (was: Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism)
 
(...) Well, definitely such a sequence is much less likely than a more "random looking" sequence. If you 6 numbers are the digits 1-9, there are only 4 such sequences compared to a total of 9!/3! sequences (if each digit can only occur once, 9^6 (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Probability: (Was: Re: Chaotic Systems...)
 
(...) Most definitely, but that's only because there are more non-sequential combinations. But any PARTICULAR non-sequential combination is just as likely, obviously... (...) And again, the same applies... given that it'll be sequential, the (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Chaotic Systems... (was: Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism)
 
For “sequential” read “consecutive” (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Chaotic Systems... (was: Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism)
 
(...) Almost all the draws in the UK are live. There are “independent adjudicators” present to confirm that there is no shenanigans underway – what these people’s skills are I do not know. I doubt that you could discount a draw due to the selection (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Chaotic Systems... (was: Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism)
 
(...) Actually, I honestly wonder whether they'd 'let' such a combination pass... I'm willing to bet that if they got the combination 1,2,3,4,5,6, that lots of people would insist that it was rigged, even if it didn't happen.... I dunno what they'd (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Chaotic Systems... (was: Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism)
 
(...) If the UK lottery usage is anything to go by, I would avoid those numbers. I am sure I am right in saying it is the most common combination selected. If/when you win, you will have to share it with a lot of other players! That said, the (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Chaotic Systems... (was: Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism)
 
(...) And I'd argue that that's JUST as likely as any other combination of numbers, accepting that each lottery number is as equally likely to appear as the next. Hence, you're fine. (...) The difference is in the inherent behavior of the system. (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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