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I've held out of this one but must reiterate these points. (...) There are two main threads when arguing in favor of gun ownership. Tim is going down one thread: that there are legitimate reasons for owning guns besides the one for which they are (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The valid justification is this: The government eventually wants a completely disarmed populace. If they tried to pass laws that just forbid all guns in Canada, they would be strung up in the streets. So they just want to record where all guns (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've been waiting to see the new thread. Did I need to respond to get it? If so, then shoot. (Bad choice of words given the other thread :-) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think that something we've been forgetting is that the "deadbeat" might very well be the victim too. There is no knowing that he knows there is a child in the world of his genetic lineage. Just a point, Chris (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What a device is _primarily_ designed to do and what one does with it, in my mind, are two very different things. The fact of the matter is it doesn't matter if a pencil is designed to write on paper with, you _could_ buy it for the express (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) To my mind the difference is that pens, pencils, screwdrivers, baseball bats etc have a primary purpose which does not involve maiming or death. I would trust a six year old with a pencil. If you want to own a machine that is explicitly (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) More specifically, why should the child be given greater consideration than a more-or-less arbitrarily chosen man? Remember--in this thought experiment we're not discussing a man who has agreed knowingly to act as the father-figure for the (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <opinion> So I guess that means you want to register bows, arrows, slingshots, BB guns, pens, pencils, screwdrivers, baseball bats, golf clubs, mixing spoons, sticks, branches, etc, etc, etc... After all, these are all dangerous too - you can (...) (24 years ago, 7-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks. I will argue the point of owning guns for protection no further. I personally don't agree with some of the opinions expressed in the www.handguncontrol.com article, but I can't argue with statistics - because one can always argue the (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ideally everyone would be happy - however that would mean that there IS no minority because if both were represented all of our interests would be the. Since that isn't the case a democratic government is in place to represent the majority - (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why? Chris (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) to (...) faithfullness, (...) It sounds like you are saying that the crux of the moral status of marriage comes from: fidelity, duty, and commitment. How does fidelity work in a culture which accepts polygamous marriage as the norm? Is the (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bill doesn't give supportable or reasonable reasons. He said it's wrong "Because it causes all manner of hurt and confusion on so many levels...[and] because innocent people get hurt." And the entirety of the rest of my note addressed exactly (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I certainly don't believe that infidelity should be rewarded. The conflict arises because while people SHOULD act responsibly, unfortunately that doesn't always happen. And if we are dealing with consequences of an act of irresponsibility that (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No problem. These two: (URL) I found here: (URL) (...) That's too bad. (...) But what really would be the price. My life is not empty without a gun. I do not live in fear. (...) It is weak. (...) The two things are related. (...) I agree. (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well there are restriction on knife sales and use in the UK, but that is another issue. (...) Guns are intended to kill. They offer a user a rather remote way to kill a person in an instant. No struggle. No blood on the user. Just death. Scott (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd argue is has to represent both the minority & the majority. Scott A (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Could you please cite the source of your statistics? (...) No, you are incorrect. Guns have no place in YOUR day to day life. Where I live, guns play a big part in MANY people's day to day life. (...) So for the sake of those imbeciles (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) WHOA! Hold on one Second here.....I'm still debating the original issue - that is that gun control will do absolutely nothing to stop crime ---- I fully agree that guns are often used as weapons because they are in fact so effective...no doubt (...) (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Uhh....I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one Scott.....a democracy is the government representing the MAJORITY.....not the MINORITY. (24 years ago, 6-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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