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(...) I can't really figure out if there is any atheistic society. As I know of every society now has some sort of religion right now, as I guess but of course I'm not sure. I really appreciate if you give some living (or lived in some time) (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thank you, Hannibal. (...) You raise good points, Bill, but don't fall into the trap of trying to prove anything about Christ or God, at least to seasoned debaters such as Lar et al. They will eat you for lunch. But that's okay, because we (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, don't flatter yourself....like it wasn't obvious! While I found your tale extremely humorous - (which is bad because I just got out of the ICU due to amonia (pneumonia), my ribs are killing me!! I laughed my @$$ off - that's right, I now (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, wouldn't instincts of altruism *always* be obeyed? Certainly altruism in sentient beings is random at best. (...) lol This reminds me of a story a friend told me. His dad was driving and came up to a stop light behind a car that had a (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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On my way home from work today, I was thinking about government structures, and had some interesting ideas, so I offer them for your digestion: The first thought was: If we strive to attain a Libertopia, is there any need for state governments? I (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) While I do subscribe, theologically, to the idea of the "depravity of man" I must say that I also agree with Larry's assessment here that most people are basically decent, honest folk - especially since working thru the state of Nebraska and (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One of the thoughts I often had is that Islam did a much better job of creating a religion than Christianity did. Some of the reasons: #1 - Their prophet wrote "The Book". #2 - Their prophet lived long enough after getting the ball rolling to (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was refering to more geopolitical events which had global impact on... well...the globe. I realize that they have made tremendous contributions - like substituting dog meat for pork and cat meat for chicken - just kidding, lighten up, I love (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Again, great points. Romans chapter 2 deals with this in depth, for anyone who cares to look it up. For the record, as to atrocities, it is my opinion that any action which is diametrically opposed to the stated principles of a system cannot (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If I may leap in at this point..... Just got in from work - I'm on the west coast right now so I'm a little behind you east and central time-zoners. I want to make a few points at this juncture with a disclaimer up front: I enjoyed reading (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, lets see if we can find one or two that had global significance. Paper. No paper, no easy to carry bibles. Gunpowder. No gunpowder, no forcing the natives to read the bibles you made them trade their land away for. How'd I do? ++Lar (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I just find it funny, hope you do too! This election will be over when the Final Recount is held. The Final Recount will consist of counting the votes of seven old men and two old ladies. They live in various precincts in Alexandria, (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Not that I know of. I do it all the time and I never forfeit, just ask me. If you really want to forfeit, you need to ask Rush Limbaugh what equivalence class Clinton is in. Although if Dubya wins, and in 2008 Hillary (divorced at this point) (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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FUT added: lugnet.off-topic.fun When are we going to finish the counting, the court battles, etc. for the new presidential candidate, whoever he may be, and when will all this poetic nonsense stop?? Also, is this going to become a regular feature (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Send a love offering. Select a tract on either Larritarianism OR Lehmanism, your choice, and absolution is yours. ++Lar (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I've set the FUT back where it belongs, this is a serious debate although couched in humor. (...) The offer is open to any who seek enlightenment, not just you. My previous religion scam, er incorrectly revealed revelation which the world was not (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Now, now. When I get home (or perhaps tomorrow, if I don't have time tonight) I'll post examples for you, and we'll see how identical they are. For that matter, what do you mean by "personal aspects" in this case? Is the Bible a different (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) events. (...) And lots of other archeological and historical evidence. (...) You're avoiding the personal aspects here - and the 'versions' are all pretty much the same (contrary to your statement otherwise). I don't have time to go into how (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) D'oh! I was afraid that might happen! I thought I could get through on a technicality, since I wasn't actually likening my opponent to Hitler, but was simply making a point (and I was quoting someone else!) Clemency! Dave! (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) actually (...) a (...) Somehow I knew that you'd be looking for a way to get my ladders. That aside, you haven't proven anything to me. You've only made assertions which you can't prove. You have no context for proving anything related to your (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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