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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jon Kozan writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal pollutes the libertarian debate part
> > > of our regularly scheduled ranting with god debate stuff: (grin)
> > >
> > > > God acts in the world through His people. If I as a Christian give to
> > > > a charity, then that charity has been blessed by God (through me). If
> > > > I as a Christian enact a series of events which prevent a war or some
> > > > other catastrophe, it is God who is ultimately the reason. I do good
> > > > things because I am actively called to do good things, not because of
> > > > some altruistic impulse (although I am not sure of the
> > > > origin of such impulses in atheists-- perhaps they are from God?)
> > >
> > > Reductio ad absurdium:
> > >
> > > Lehman acts in the world through his people. If I as a LUGNet user give to a
> > > science fiction convention organizing fund to foster a Brikwars game, then
> > > that con has been blessed by Lehman (through me). If I as a Lego Fan enact a
> > > series of events which make a newsgroup more fun, or custom models easier to
> > > obtain or models wider, yea, verily, unto 8 wide, it is Lehman who is
> > > ultimately the reason. I do fun things because I am actively called by
> > > Lehman to do fun things, not because of some inner sense of humor. (although
> > > I am not sure where the worshipers of MegaBloks get their ability to tell
> > > jokes-- perhaps the jokes are from Lehman even though he says he reviles
> > > clones? (but loves the sinner nonetheless and thus grants them a boon))
> >
> > I believe you missed John's point. (Perhaps he didn't state it)...
> >
> > He acts in the world not the because of the group he subscribes to, or
> > affiliates with.
> >
> > John believes that he is not merely acting in accordance with his belief
> > system's source. John believes that his belief system's source (God) • actually
> > indwells him (not the same as possession). In John's case (and other
> > Christians) this is via the Holy Spirit (who is believed by Christians to be • a
> > triune member/part of God)...
> >
> > Now if the Lehman starts indwelling LUGers...
> > Well, just let me know where I can run to.
>
> LUGNetters, but I digress.
>
> The Lehman DOES indwell LUGNetters and I've just proven it to you. Do you
> doubt my word? Witness the miracles the Lehman has worked. All those things
> I mentioned happened to me, personally, and I have had my Road to Waltham
> (1) and am converted. You can't disprove it either, and since it produces
> positive effects, bow down now and rejoice, for you are saved. Fear not the
> indwelling, for it is nifty.
>
> Just send me 4 of those old ladders you have on BAYLit extra and I will
> enlighten you further via personal dispatch... Or be cast into the eternal
> damnation of MegaBloks, for you have been shown the light and chose to
> reject it.
>
> There is no god but Lehman and Lar is his prophet.
>
> 1 - where the Construction Site is
Somehow I knew that you'd be looking for a way to get my ladders.
That aside, you haven't proven anything to me. You've only made assertions
which you can't prove.
You have no context for proving anything related to your assertions.
You have no witnesses.
In reality, you have nothing that could be used to prove your statements in a
court of law. At a minumum, witnesses are required - and while many belief
systems have them - you do not.
Thus you are on the verge of needing psychological counseling.
You are beginning to sound like many of the Jim Jones folks or the Heaven's
Gate crowd.
Your vast LEGO has gone to your head.
(and you've forgotten to take your valium-prozac cocktail today)
-Jon
(Follow-up set)
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