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Re: Libertarian debate in danger of pollution (was Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:40:54 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jon Kozan writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal pollutes the libertarian debate part
of our regularly scheduled ranting with god debate stuff: (grin)

God acts in the world through His people.  If I as a Christian give to
a charity, then that charity has been blessed by God (through me).  If
I as a Christian enact a series of events which prevent a war or some
other catastrophe, it is God who is ultimately the reason.  I do good
things because I am actively called to do good things, not because of
some altruistic impulse (although I am not sure of the
origin of such impulses in atheists-- perhaps they are from God?)

Reductio ad absurdium:

Lehman acts in the world through his people. If I as a LUGNet user give to a
science fiction convention organizing fund to foster a Brikwars game, then
that con has been blessed by Lehman (through me). If I as a Lego Fan enact a
series of events which make a newsgroup more fun, or custom models easier to
obtain or models wider, yea, verily, unto 8 wide, it is Lehman who is
ultimately the reason. I do fun things because I am actively called by
Lehman to do fun things, not because of some inner sense of humor. (although
I am not sure where the worshipers of MegaBloks get their ability to tell
jokes-- perhaps the jokes are from Lehman even though he says he reviles
clones? (but loves the sinner nonetheless and thus grants them a boon))

I believe you missed John's point. (Perhaps he didn't state it)...

He acts in the world not the because of the group he subscribes to, or
affiliates with.

John believes that he is not merely acting in accordance with his belief
system's source.  John believes that his belief system's source (God) actually
indwells him (not the same as possession). In John's case (and other
Christians) this is via the Holy Spirit (who is believed by Christians to be a
triune member/part of God)...

Now if the Lehman starts indwelling LUGers...
Well, just let me know where I can run to.

LUGNetters, but I digress.

The Lehman DOES indwell LUGNetters and I've just proven it to you. Do you
doubt my word? Witness the miracles the Lehman has worked. All those things
I mentioned happened to me, personally, and I have had my Road to Waltham
(1) and am converted. You can't disprove it either, and since it produces
positive effects, bow down now and rejoice, for you are saved. Fear not the
indwelling, for it is nifty.

Just send me 4 of those old ladders you have on BAYLit extra and I will
enlighten you further via personal dispatch... Or be cast into the eternal
damnation of MegaBloks, for you have been shown the light and chose to
reject it.

There is no god but Lehman and Lar is his prophet.

1 - where the Construction Site is

++Lar



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  Re: Libertarian debate in danger of pollution (was Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) actually (...) a (...) Somehow I knew that you'd be looking for a way to get my ladders. That aside, you haven't proven anything to me. You've only made assertions which you can't prove. You have no context for proving anything related to your (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: Libertarian debate in danger of pollution (was Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Speaking as one of the dark acolytes of Ritvik, we always have room for those who stray from the Pure ABS Faith. (...) Sycophant!! Dave! (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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(...) I believe you missed John's point. (Perhaps he didn't state it)... He acts in the world not the because of the group he subscribes to, or affiliates with. John believes that he is not merely acting in accordance with his belief system's (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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