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Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:50:37 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jon Kozan writes:

But the thing with the Bible is that it's not one or 2, it's
hundreds of prophecies. The odds of them all coming true are truly
frightening.

Frighteningly small?  Or simply frightening in their implication?

Both?

Perhaps to individualize the point is that *you* may want to re-consider your
own beliefs as more prophecies come true -- or you could just continue being
ignorant of Biblical prophecies.

We'll see.  I predict instead that any prophecies "identified" as such
will be equally nebulous and equally low on predictive value.

I can offer this (in response to your 'prediction' - er, prophecy, or whatever)

Remember, please, my point about prophecies surrounding major Biblical events.
The last event was the birth/life/death of Jesus.
About that there were slightly less than 200 prophecies.
All predicted beforehand, and all came true.

The Bible doesn't purport to be predictive on everything just to prove it's
validity. Rather it predicts events germane to it's purpose - God's
communications to man in relation to the topics God wants to share.

The next major Biblical event has equally major ramifications for you, me, and
everyone else. Perhaps it would be wise (given past Biblical predictive
performance) to become familiar with the coming predictions / prophecies
surrounding that event (and the event itself), as the Bible describes it.

-Jon



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  Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) As reported by the very document that predicted them. Further, while I recognize that you can drum up historical evidence to support these predictions, I could parry that by asking which revision of the Bible we're cconsidering to have (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Sorry to jump, but this just reminds me a former RP (a fundamentalist political party in Turkey) senator, who escaped to Germany after found guilty by the court, just announced a few days ago himself as "messiah". Since it is the second Turk (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Agreed--they're not made false by my dislike, but neither are they made true by your assertion of them. In order for any prophesy to be given any value, it must have some specificity, otherwise you can simply say "well, it didn't happen yet, (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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