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(...) It looks like I failed to communicate. I understood your note. (...) Right. That's my perception too. (...) I know. Now what do real liberals believe? And more importantly, what is the single factor that most closely correlates with the (...) (26 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ummmmm, you were supposed to laugh! Extreme right wingers excoriate Clinton for being this rabid liberal, but if you strung out all liberals in a line, you'd find him over on the right-hand side. The further south you go, the milder the (...) (26 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wasn't whining at all. I could not care less. He's a republican. Blah. (...) Bush has to do something to pretend he is a centrist, I wouldn't be surprised. It would be the smart move. (...) No. Not at the price of having Dubya select any (...) (26 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What do 'real' liberals believe? As I think of it, at some point on the leftward scale you become a communist in favor of maximal wealth redistribution. Is wealth distribution the crucial factor in everyone else's mind, or is that just me? If (...) (26 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Clinton (...) Haha! And here I just said in another message that my wife views Clinton as a Republican! (okay, not really, but it's a measure of how much of a centrist he is). Bruce (...) (26 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Gosh, what will everyone think when a *real* liberal shows up? My wife thinks Clinton is a Republican. :-) Bruce (26 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes: Mostly agree, so snipped most of it... BUT... (...) I really really don't think I'm right-wing.... But I consider Clinton to be quite socialist-leaning, when you dig through the rhetoric and (...) (26 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Clinton's fairly liberal for a Republican. (...) Indeed. Chris (26 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What? You mean that they froze the market for a while? I tend to think that's a good thing. (...) That's me, Chris the Leftist! (...) Like what? (...) Well, you have to admit that a tax cut is the last thing this nation needs right now. (...) (26 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The thing I really enjoy about .debate is watching all the tiny tantrums folks (myself included) post here. The laughs really clear my head and help me get a fresh perspective on the day. Thanks, Scott. I knew I could count on you. Cheers, - (...) (26 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Bruce (And all you McClain supporters out there), I am just wreathing at the Microsoft debacle, and now we go in on the McCain debacle. What is it? Is this not decided already? This sounds like a leftist whine fest. "Ah, gee whiz, he lost!" I have a (...) (26 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Compassionate conservative." When push came to shove, he ran as far right as he could and tried to declare McCain a liberal (I would hardly declare Clinton a liberal, much less McCain). (...) People are always trying to paint their opposition (...) (26 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Chris, (...) system (...) The one he is for, yes. (...) Wow, there is a surprise. (...) I disagree with Mccain on his campaign finance reform because it is the same line leftist have being saying for years. It hurts how the Republican National (...) (26 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Can't we think of something better? (...) So when I'm convicted of a capitol crime and am put to death for it, even though I didn't do it, that's not an infringement on my rights? I disagree. (...) Sure, just like you could surrender to the (...) (26 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And your friends from church take what stance on bags? And what about on cars and the environment? (...) This implies to me that you see right-conservatives favoring liberal positions on a regular basis. IS that what you mean? Which liberal (...) (26 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're saying that campaign finance reform is a leftist topic? I don't think so. Gore isn't really reform-minded. In general no establishment politicians are going to be. If McCain truely is, then he's an exception. (...) Are you claiming that (...) (26 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (26 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) on (...) election. (...) I don't think so. We shall see. The polls still favor Bush, as far as I have seen. (...) Well, campaign finance is a HUGE one, for starters. I think the whols system is gfarbage, and putting the government in more (...) (26 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) if (...) say (...) on (...) think (...) that's (...) What I meant is that I was talking about abortion, and I didn't feel like going over this again, because I think we discussed this before. (...) Well, it is war, and killing is involved. (...) (26 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Chris, (from Scott, who should really be working rather than staying on off topic) Anyway, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> To: <lugnet.off-topic.de...ugnet.com> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 10:50 PM (...) (26 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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