 | | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
|
|
The last refuge of religion is to turn rabid and claim that nobody can be objective, therefore you need God's revelation. Objectivity isn't an unattainable ideal. It includes using the sum total of your experiences to come to a conclusion! When you (...) (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
|
|
(...) Aha! OK, thanks for clarifying. I wasn't aware, prior to your pointing it out, that the good book was truly objective. I mean, I always knew it was completely factual, accurate, and consistent, but I never knew that it was truly objective. (...) (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
|
|
(...) to (...) If that's the case (and I'm not debating that point...I happen to agree) then the Bible is even less of an objective source than our own minds... After all, the content of the Bible is purportedly eyewitness testimony, right? So it (...) (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
|
|
(...) Thanks Todd, that one gave me a huge chuckle. :~) I wasn't saying that we shouldn't think. What I meant was that our own minds are incapable of true objectivity. We all translate experiences according to a sum total of all our previous (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Papal support of evolution
|
|
(...) The Catholic Church accepted the possibility of evolution back in the 1960s. (I think it may have been earlier, with Vatican II.) The only requirement of a Christian, said the Catholic clergy, was that they understand that at some point God (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Papal support of evolution
|
|
(...) I remember the incident, but I got the impression (wrongly perhaps) at the time that he was refering more to a church position than his own opinion. A quack? He's a phony doctor?!? He should be down on Wilshire in L.A. working the Miracle (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Papal support of evolution
|
|
(...) Hehheh...I meant to say, "Was he misunderstood or misquoted?" (...) Well, the amazing thing (IMHO) is this: Because PJP2 is the official head of the RCC, it is the official position of the RCC that DE isn't rubbish. That's a very open-minded (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Papal support of evolution
|
|
(...) Hmm...misquoted or misquoted... do I have another choice? ;) Nope, JP II did indeed say that (or similar). As to him being a quack or closer to God than the rest of us - I'm not qualified to judge that. I don't think he's a quack, but (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
|
|
(...) Ok, did some digging of my own, and find myself hoist on a petard, presumably my own. My example died, but the point is still extant. Simply because science (objective rational evidence) does not provide for somethings existance does not mean (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
|
|
Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <38C9898F.27C595B8@v...er.net>... (...) I guess it really depends on one's definition of Christian. By my definition of Christian, I see people who were quite devout who have done good for the world, and continue to (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Papal support of evolution
|
|
(...) Indeed! In fact, IIRC, Pope John Paul II of the Roman Catholic Church made headlines a few years ago when he pontificated that Darwin's theory of evolution is more than a hypothesis and that it must be taken seriously by Christians. I'm (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Intolerance and property rights
|
|
Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <38C99133.A47A4F64@v...er.net>... (...) I'm a bit curious as to how patents fit into this scheme. One the one hand, it is clearly good to protect the investment that went into an invention (both "dollars" and the (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
|
|
(...) :) Fair enough. I've never (to my knowledge!) attempted to convert anyone without them having opened the topic, and I've certainly never told someone I know what's best for them. I would consider myself strongly christian, but I also strongly (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
|
|
(...) Thank God we have the Bible so that don't have to use our minds. --Todd (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
|
|
(...) I have my reasons for my methods which are not obvious on the surface. I hinted at them earlier. No more clues here. (...) Honestly, I wasn't emotional at all. That's why I included the parenthetical comment about not trying to be insulting. (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
|
|
(...) Bill, Lemme give you a clue. You're wasting your energy arguing like this. Don't take it personally, I make these misteaks all the time, myself. Here's some pointers: When you're discussing controversial topics such as religion, it's best to (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | (canceled)
|
|
|
| |
| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
|
|
(...) you (...) I saw that one last week and about split a gut. Then I had to get off the shoulder and back into my lane... Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
|
|
(...) Since we are in .off-topic anyway... Speaking of bumper stickers, I saw a great one today... It's a bright red sticker that reads "If this sticker is blue, you are driving too fast!" ObReligion: If you got that joke, thank a science teacher; (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
| |
| | Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
|
|
(...) I forgot the winky smilie! If that had actually been what you were saying, it would make a nice paradox. :) One of my favorite bumber stickers is, "Down with Intolerance!" :) (...) How about a governmental ban on the sale of left-handed guns (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
|
