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Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
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Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:12:05 GMT
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The last refuge of religion is to turn rabid and claim that nobody can be
objective, therefore you need God's revelation.
Objectivity isn't an unattainable ideal. It includes using the sum total of your
experiences to come to a conclusion! When you stop being objective is when you
decide that you wish something were otherwise and pretend to ignore it.
As far as "believing reactively", speak for yourself. I might say that for many
people, believing in the Bible is a reaction to all the wickedness they see or
imagine around them, and it's the only place they know of to turn.
If you're really pointing out that other people are criticizing you more than
they are revealing parts of themselves (for criticism by others) then, ok, that
sounds like a fruitful change of direction to take. I've done more than a little
of that.
-Erik
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bill Farkas writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Todd Lehman writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bill Farkas writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > > Bill, you're falling into the trap of quoting from scripture as if it
> > > > were authoritative again. It is to you, we grant that, but it's not
> > > > authoritative to me.
> > >
> > > It's not a "trap" for me. You're the one who seems to have a problem with
> > > it. The fact that someone doesn't *want* to believe it doesn't diminish
> > > it's authority. The bible IS my standard, your mind is yours. No offense
> > > but the bible has been around a lot longer. [...]
> >
> > Thank God we have the Bible so that don't have to use our minds.
> >
> > --Todd
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> Thanks Todd, that one gave me a huge chuckle. :~)
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> I wasn't saying that we shouldn't think. What I meant was that our own minds
> are incapable of true objectivity. We all translate experiences according to a
> sum total of all our previous experiences. The human psyche has the tendency to
> recoil and react defensively to negative stimuli. If our belief system is
> framed by reacting against someone else's, are we likely to arrive at THE
> truth? There is after all only one actual truth about God and how we got here.
> Can that be discovered by constantly reacting in opposition to a philosophy
> whose practitioners have ofended you. Not to be overly redundant, but many of
> us feel and believe a certain way reactively and not proactively. That's my
> point. We are all subjective.
>
>
> Bill
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| (...) I thought the anti-religion stance states that the last refuge of religion is to convert people by the sword. But again, quite sarcastically, I digress... (...) But that's still subjective, isn't it? The interpretation of this data is still (...) (25 years ago, 12-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Thanks Todd, that one gave me a huge chuckle. :~) I wasn't saying that we shouldn't think. What I meant was that our own minds are incapable of true objectivity. We all translate experiences according to a sum total of all our previous (...) (25 years ago, 11-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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