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(...) Okay, I take it from your facetious tone that you are finished with any serious discussion. That's fine. j (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I mention Germans because there are a lot of German AFOLs. I know some personally. They are great guys. And I would rather not have them believe that English speaking people are a bunch of jerks who joke about things which are uncomfortable (...) (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Holy crap! Now only WWII veterans can make jokes about Nazis? You've really got your work cut out for you now. (...) Only Australians are allowed to use it. From USAians it's deeply offensive. a (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ironically, I'd bet more women would find your statement more offensive than mine. (...) I used the indefinite article, meaning that in a free democratic state, there is draconian intolerance on this issue, so one should conclude that they (...) (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ha, nice try, but no. Hence the quotes around "see". What I was talking about was our perception of the humor is different than someone who is object of the humor. I think I already stated somewhere that I didn't find it humorous at all, but (...) (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Menstruating women may find the use of 'Period' in a one word sentence offensive. Whatever happened to the 'German Democratic Republic' ? (...) Available on cable/satellite channel TV1 at 3pm this arvo (in Australia). (...) Israel seems to (...) (19 years ago, 23-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Gentleman, you both make compelling arguments. I take Allister at his word on his motivations. He was pretty clear about that. I also trust that John is speaking his mind on the subject. He was pretty clear about that. Let's just not fault (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah, so you did think it was funny. Cheers. a (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think I need to make my original question more explicit. Of all the many reasons to object to a swastika spaceship, I'd like to know why you chose "because it offends Germans". Why didn't you once mention the feelings of Jews? Is it because (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So, if I understand you correctly, only innoffensive and legal things are appropriate subjects for humour? News to me, and almost every comedian on the planet. (...) Maybe for you. (...) The war was even longer ago than that. I'm not sure (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX) !
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(...) The net's a funny thing. Sometimes it hard to tell one way or the other. "Fuss" in American English can carry a negative connotation. I'll bet if you had chosen a different word, Lar might have taken it differently. But you did include a (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Tel me John, did you perceive (URL) this post> as mocking? Just asking, because it's a similar situation - lar condemning my post because he thought I was mocking you. My point is, I don't see any point in a third person weighing in on a (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It's not as clear-cut as that. I agree that humour can and should push the boundaries of taste and I'm deeply concerned when people imply that humour can be derived from certain subjects only by certain groups. We laugh often because we are (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oops that link didn't work very well, try (URL) this link to the details> jt (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Huh, not really wanting to step into this debate, but being a fan of Hogan's Heroes as a child I have to point out that Hogan's Heroes was WWII. You can read more about it at: (URL) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So, you're saying that Mel Brooks can send up the Nazi's since he is a "genious" and fought in the war. Is that your own special version of an appeal to authority? As for Hogan's Hero's I have no idea as I've never watched it. (...) Wow! This (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Of course. But some Jews have dealt with the Nazis by mocking them (Mel) and even some Jews find those Jews offensive... (...) <shrug> There is nothing new under the sun. Are we sure that "they" invented it, or did "they" "steal" it from some (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ok, so Hogans Heros was WWII, I lose... I still want to know if you go happy slapping with your friends? (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hogans Heros was WWI you dolt! And as far as Mel Brooks, he is a comic genious who earned respect first. He also saw the results of Hitler's handiwork firsthand, while serving in the Army in Europe in World War II. Do you go happy slapping (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Hello! (...) You are right. Many Germans are offended by this topis. Either because they think it's inappropriate to make fun about, or because they constantly assume they are supposed to feel guilty. I'm not offended, though, I'm just curious. (...) (19 years ago, 22-Dec-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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