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  Re: Not the right way to exit?
 
(...) On the basis that if an incumbent president is voted out of office it generally means a dissatisfaction with his policies with no means of offering distinction as to which specific policies were the cause, yes. Clinton was comparatively soft (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) Well, you seem to have a problem with the term 'marraige' being redefined. The point is that marraige has been redefined many times in the past and has many different definitions today. The point is that marraige is defined by whatever the (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Not the right way to exit?
 
(...) Oh, it's the whole thing with how networks were convinced for so long that the only way a sci-fi show could survive is if it has the Star Trek name attached to it, but then here we are where the name has become something of a pariah, and other (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) Ok. So if your not using religon what is your justification for disallowing them to enter into a contract. Seriously, you don't see how this is a blatant case of religious discrimination?! -Mike Petrucelli (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) Can you prove that those ideals predate Judeism or the roots thereof? Show me some documented proof, not scientific theories. Even the great Stephen Hawking is recanting one of his most cherished theories today. (...) Just as the state's (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) Noone is denying them the right to perform private religious ceremonies. They're just being denied the right to enter into a legally binding social contract. (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: polygyny in "biblical times"
 
(...) Marital status is a non-discrimination item, but that doesn't prevent the Catholic church from refusing to marry a divorced person. They can't be required to perform the ceremony if they can't be required to recognize the union, and forcing (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Not the right way to exit?
 
(...) I'm not sure how any of that relates to ST:E only (most likely) lasting four seasons (Paramount cut their per episode charges by something like half just so it would get picked up for a forth season). However, yes, I like being able to watch a (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: polygyny in "biblical times"
 
(...) Let's hope not :) If stated so, I have a hunch lots of people would start migrating over to the liberal side :) (...) Well, I doubt that's John's point since I don't think he's interested in making other laws to: - attend church on Sunday - (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not the right way to exit?
 
(...) Pardon? A vote for Kerry is an encouragement to the terrorists? Are you on the GOP's payroll? One could as easily suggest that the terrorists, recognizing that a fanatical, crusading zealot is out of the driver's seat, might pause to see how a (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) That doesn't give you the right to marry. It gives the states the right to either give or deny you the right to marry. Or to abstain from the matter altogether and let the local county and city governments deal with it. (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Not the right way to exit?
 
(...) I suggest "1". (...) While I enjoyed TNG and I loved DS9, B5 just seemed less foofy from the start. Instead of shields they have a "defense grid". It consists of BFGs. One of them in particular looks like its barrel is at least large enough (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Not the right way to exit?
 
(...) Really? That's kinda funny, given the external circumstances. Stargate recently started franchising, there are rumors that another B5 spinoff is in the works, and after the whole debate of whether ST or B5 was superior or which show stole (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: American Idolatry
 
(...) So you agree that Dick Cheney doesn't deserve our respect? - Chris. (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: American Idolatry
 
(...) As I have said before, this is what happens when you have freedom without responsibility. Flag burning is a particularily unpatriotic and pointedly antagonistic expression of dissatisfaction that is frankly irresponsible. You can't tell (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Not the right way to exit?
 
(...) I didn't mind the lack of those functions, as the holodeck stories often tended to be a bit too farfetched (just how many times can Starfleet-owned holodecks run rampant and threaten to kill members of their respective crews before they figure (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: American Idolatry
 
(...) After 9/11, everyone and their dog had flags on their cars, clothes, stickers, houses, etc. It didn't take very long for them to get really ratty. It's funny (to me personally, if no one else) that I find myself uncomfortable with the ratty (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Santorum Fails In His Effort To Pervert The Constitution
 
(...) No problem! Amendment IX - Construction of Constitution. Ratified 12/15/1791. The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. Amendment X - Powers of the States (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Not the right way to exit?
 
(...) You better hurry and make up your mind about ST:E since this is undoubtedly the last season - the only reason they are limping through it is to get to the magical 100 episodes for marketing the re-runs. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Not the right way to exit?
 
(...) This is the sound of complete agreement. And as an example, I think US military should be in Sudan, though it's a little late. Chris (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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