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(...) Last I checked, it's faster to fly west than east, since you'd be flying into the planetary rotation instead of overtaking it. Also, you can't judge the size of a country very accurately by board-to-debark times, since many airlines pad those (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Have you ever lived in Kansas? ;) (...) Exactly. And to many Americans, knowing the geography of your neighboring States is roughly equivalent to knowing the geography of neighboring nations in Western Europe. The big difference is that most (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, Russia is _almost_ bigger than any two of the other 5 largest nations, even after having large chunks of the ex-U.S.S.R. lopped off (and one of those chunks still ranks at #9 for both total land-mass and total area). In 1998, the (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:I0r83n.J72@lugnet.com... (...) country on (...) non-stop (...) Good point. I just checked for Seattle to Miami, it's 5 hrs 44 minutes. I looked at Alaska Airlines schedule, can't (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Added to that the idea that LA and Boston are on opposite coasts, whereas Moscow and the city whonse name I can't remember are not really near the 'outer edges' of the former Soviet Union. So the 7 hours was 'in country', not even going from (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, but LA to Boston is only 5 hours...he was flying east. Chris (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm, maybe it's a pretty darn big world after all! :-) JOHN (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message news:I0qwBt.2D3@lugnet.com... (...) to (...) Yep, your provinces are pretty big... (...) tagged (...) former (...) which (...) country on (...) Careful though, 7 hours doesn't sound that (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Purple Dave" <purpledave@maskofdestiny.com> wrote in message news:I0ny3F.F5E@lugnet.com... (...) easier than (...) the (...) where (...) If it's (...) the US (...) without (...) single (...) the (...) failing to (...) of (...) Hmm, I think I could (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Takes me 20 hours(ish) of straight driving to get from my place in Ontario to the next province--Manitoba Though I'd say the best story about size and geography--a friends father tagged along with a university undergrad study course to look at (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Yes, I get tired of the "clueless American" geography issue, when I find so many non-US citizens are surprised to find out that I can drive for over 600 miles on relatively straight interstates without touching reaching the far end of the state I (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's also not spelled with a lower-case "s", but that's beside the point. (...) I've often wondered about this sort of thing. Admittedly, I have it easier than most US citizens, having lived my entire life on the longest lakeshore in the (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It sounds logical on paper, but after acceding to the English throne, James IV of Scotland (becoming James I of England) only returned to Scotland once during the whole of his rule, at which time he basically told them they were worthless (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This sounds familiar. JOHN (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ummmm scotsman only has one "t" :) And as an aside, it is a commonly held (mis?)conception in Australia (and more than likely elsewhere) that most Americans couldn't point to their home town on a map. But I was disappointed to see a Letterman (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) During the first research methodology course in grad school, we were given data on the just-graduated University of Missouri students for an exercise in statistics. I found that SAT was the best predictor of college academic success for the (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hello, Pedro- (URL) Scholastic Aptitude Test> It is the standard test used by colleges for potential admissions. JOHN (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Out of curiosity, what are those? Pedro (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) They need to know that it's flawed intelligence before they can choose to ignore it on that basis. Last I checked the UN doesn't have a spy department, and SH was refusing access to their more direct information gathering services, like (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ROFL! -Tim (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) James Stewart, son of Mary, Queen of Scots, followed Elizabeth I to the throne, so didn't Scotland take over England? ;-) -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't accept SAT as a valid indicator of intelligence even though there is a statistically powerful correlation for native English speakers. But I might just be missing part of an earlier conversation... Chris (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, they need to ignore debates based on flawed intelligence. (...) Are you saying that mandate was still valid? (...) So Clinton should have done less; not more? (...) Britain comprises Scotland, England and Wales (i.e. Britain can't (...) (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Wow. I can see why Tim feels intimidated by you! ;) Scott A (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This sounds familiar. Scott A (20 years ago, 10-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Top 0.5%, based on SAT scores. (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) From what I can tell, the consequences didn't really amount to much other than saying "Stop, or I'll say 'stop' again!" If the UN wants to be taken seriously, they need to stick to their own decisions, and follow up on their resolutions in (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Considering his history of bullying behavior towards me, here, on the MichLUG list, and especially by private e-mail (where his often inflammatory, usually hypocritical, and always condescending "suggestions" got to be of such a blatantly (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No. You said the war against Saddam was "unjust" and I disputed that. I did say in passing that I would dispute "illegal". It was never about the wisdom of the war, and I have said so repeatedly. Nor was it about Bush's stated reasons for (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) wave a wand and the GOP candidate is on the ticket. The governor of IL is a Democrat, as it happens, but this passed both IL houses almost unanimously. "You wash my hand and I'll wash yours" or something like that. Meanwhile the LP had to (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can guess how it will deal with (URL) this>. I suppose the fact that this issue has been given this much attention is a small victory for those who really believe in freedom. Scott A (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I thought we were talking about the legitimacy, legality, moralness, and wisdom of the war. I was setting out to show via example, how this war was illegal. (...) No I didn't (this is sounding like a bad Python sketch). If action is justified (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Note: The "consequences" did not include what happened (i.e. armed intervention). (...) That is a rather subjective view. (...) What did SH do whilst Clinton was running things that was worth even lobbing missiles at? (...) I hear they have (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tim, many thanks for your constructive input. ;) Dave, just how intelligent do you "claim" to be? ;) Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sounds a bit like Cuba. ;) Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Britain and France had a treaty with Poland which guaranteed its territorial integrity. A {much} overlooked point is that the USSR invaded Poland a week or two after Nazi Germany did. We did not declare war on them as Churchill hoped the USSR (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I can't help notice, Dave, that you left off the end of Larry's message talking about baiting. Also, I'm not sure that anyone else cares who is right, you or him, other than the two of you. I've watched the two of you get into it on (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The US didn't invade Iraq because Iraq was breaking US laws, though. The justification for the invasion was because Iraq had failed to live up to the sanctions imposed on them by the UN after the Gulf War. The UN set a deadline by which time (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought I made it clear that I was not making any reference to the U.N. resolution you are refering to. (...) You just ignored it again!!! (...) But it happened because of stupidity, thus it was Yet Another Stupid European War caused by (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This does not answer my question. Because it hasn't doesn't mean it can't. (...) Or a genocide against different tribe from the ruling one? Or those of a given religion that aren't rebeling? Or a people or region that were forced into the (...) (20 years ago, 9-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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