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(...) I'm reading between the lines, but I think only a little: new design, high orbit Yes, but let's imagine that Rutan can do it for $60M. What did NASA spend? (Of course, they were pioneering the technology!) (...) What if it's double those times (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're entitled to your viewpoint, even if expressed not very politely, but I have a different view. As for your second para, do some research into how NASA, the FAA, and the OCST have held things back. It's not lack of desire or lack of (...) (20 years ago, 23-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's absolute nonsense. My impression or lack thereof has no direct impact on this venture, as I don't have the money to throw at it either as an investor or as a customer. I could be the most excited person in the world and it wouldn't (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) NASA was sorta forced into cheating on that one. The Russians got the jump on them, so they had to bypass the X-15 suborbital jet plane by outfitting nuclear missiles with crew modules instead of warheads. The ironic thing was that the X-15 (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) With a completely new design, or with a modified version of this one? At the very least he'd need to add manouvering thrusters to make reentry possible. (...) Ten years to achieve what, exactly? Low orbit? High orbit? Moon-landings? Privately (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My understanding is that to win he'll have to make two flights within a two week period; each of which must carry the weight of three people. The prize runs out at the end of this year, so Mr Melvill may well be the first of a handful making (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) My view was that those who had noted a dislike for Moore in the past appeared to welcome this apparent opportunity to grind their axes. It’s just an off-the-cuff comment; don’t read too much into it. (...) I'd have thought you would not have a (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's the kind of historical attitude I like. However, I'm not entirely sure Marco isn't a fake. He makes some big claims (like he met Kublai, was a governor, etc) and yet there is no corresponding Chinese mention of him or any European at (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) As Ray himself knows very well! A LUGNET member-at-large reminded me that Bradbury's (URL) Wicked This Way Comes> is itself a rip-off of (URL) an earlier work.> Pedants and kneejerk anti-Moore zealots will no doubt observe that Shakespeare was (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, actually I don't. What I would expect your words to mean is that Democrats are supportive of Moore and Republicans are not. But that's not what I'm seeing in this thread, so I was curious how you were viewing things. I wasn't nitpicking. (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This thread concerns MM, so I'm allowed to be loose with my English... ;) I think you know what I meant. Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The party of those who "deplore his methods" (quotes deliberate) but think he can nevertheless do no wrong since his cause is just and who embrace all sorts of lies and mean spirited things when Moore (or others in their pantheon of "heroes") (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It's valid to ask whether this is scalable technology or not but if one isn't impressed by this, one is part of the problem, in my view. It's not the technology per se that's the impressive part, although that's certainly cool, it's that (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Which parties? Chris (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not "old enough", but it's my feeling that the Vitenam War was perpetuated by anti-communist hysteria and an unwillingness to concede defeat. Ordinary Americans thought they were doing the right thing, but when service men started refusing (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What else could he say? To go into orbit he'll need a quantum leap in technology and funding. Perhaps the North Koreans could help with funding? ;) Being cynical, I'd say SpaceShipOne is nothing more than another way for the wealthy to waste (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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I'm sure both Moore & Bradbury are enjoying the publicity. It’s interesting to see the rather partisan spilt in opinions expressed in this thread... Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Rutan says he's going for orbit once this step is perfected. I don't think that a ten year timeline for that is at all aggressive considering what the last ten years have provided. (...) Yeah, those will be better. And then there are better (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Tito wasn't an astronaut (or, technically, in his case, a cosmonaut). He was sentient ballast. An astronaut is defined as a pilot or crew member on a space flight, not a tourist. (...) If she would have qualified (I'm not sure if she reached (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) No I'm not. Reread what you cited. "tends to suggest" is hardly Summarily Dismissed. Further, being wrong about an issue or cause is not the same as dismissing the issue or cause. I dismiss his opinions about issues (for valid cause since he's (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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