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  Re: Blank checks drawn upon the US
 
(...) How else can you convince them that they are wrong? Education (for all) is the key! Scott A (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Amusing--maybe better suited for OT-Fun?
 
(...) Hmm. Did they not have a tendency to start fires, and then charge to put them out? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
 
(...) I'm glad that you have had a blessed life. Chances are that one day things won't always look so peachy, answers won't come so easily, and fates won't be accepted so readily. (...) It is my understanding that God doesn't value "logic" much-- (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
 
(...) You are? Well, dwelling without him is pretty peachy, if you ask me. So then, sorry to hear you're having such a rough time with him. (logically if I'm not miserable then you're not wonderful) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Blank checks drawn upon the US
 
(...) Why? Who placed this obligation on us and what was gained in exchange? (...) Why? (...) Why? What if they are convinced that blue mud is the cure for AIDS (c.f. South Africa right about now) when we know for sure it isn't? (...) Why? Why (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Amusing--maybe better suited for OT-Fun?
 
(...) I'm not getting the joke. :-) I use government services reluctantly but if I *paid* for them already (willingly or not) and there aren't any alternatives (usually because bad money drives out good, or because the government forces a monopoly) (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
 
(...) Well, I guess I'd say that I believe only in those things for which there is empirical evidence or which can, in principle, be proven. As far as a devout scientist is concerned, I say go right ahead! I would, however, offer that IMO the devout (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
 
(...) No, I am not advocating a tyrany of the majority, I'm saying that is the practical outcome. It recognizing what the difference between what you might want, and what you get. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 18 children among dozens dead in Iraq car bombings
 
(...) These deaths made the news here too. It's a pity the media did not give the same coverage to the infant deaths caused by sanctions... (...) It is pretty clear now that it was silly of Rumseld to disband the Iraqi army and police... and leave (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What Should the Next Guy Do?
 
(...) Not with a big bell around his neck he won't! (...) Good point! We'll just have to tell the media it'd be "unpatriotic" to do otherwise. ;) I forgot No. 9: Make those who have benefited form the occupation (Bush’s corporate buddies) compensate (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
 
(...) The examples of the things we have right are theories-- the examples of things we don't are specifics in trying to apply those theories. Of course we aren't perfect, but we have the perfect blueprint of government-- namely Freedom and (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
 
(...) Yes. Do you claim to only believe in things that are provable? In the final analysis, what would you say about a devout scientist who believed in God? Is he/she compromised as a scientific thinker? (...) Yes, but I'm curious. There are so many (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
 
(...) I wasn't really addressing your claim of whether we have it right or not. We do have some things right (democracy, freedom of the press, separation of church and state, freedom to move, freedom to leave) most of the time, and there are some (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
 
(...) It isn't the height of arrogance to claim that anymore than it is the height of arrogance to claim we don't have it right. That is -->Bruce<--'s point. That is also the problem with moral relativism, but I digress. Getting back to "we've got (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What Should the Next Guy Do?
 
(...) I'm sure he'll go AWOL and work on somebody's political campaign. ;-) (...) Can't and shouldn't tell the media what to write - he would simply need to direct them to the unemployment line (but I understand the sentiment). (...) Yup. (...) As (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
 
(...) Okay - now, I've deleted all that preceeded this paragraph above because it indulges in everything you just disavowed. There, a clean slate. If you want to go back into the particulars, I'll be only too happy to shoot you down yet again. :-O (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  18 children among dozens dead in Iraq car bombings
 
I'm not convinced that we should have invaded Iraq in the first place, and I'm not sure what to think now: (URL) of me is starting to feel like we should just quarantine these states. I don't know how you fight people who are so caught up in their (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  I'll just let Hillary speak for me-- was Re: George Bush has legitimised terrorism
 
From (URL) I think that in the case of the [Bush] administration, they really believed it. They really thought they were right, but they didn't let enough sunlight into their thinking process to really have the kind of debate that needs to take (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Amusing--maybe better suited for OT-Fun?
 
(...) (URL) here> BTW: Libertarianism rejects the notion of "community" as a liberal fantasy... there is only "me me me" in Libertarianism. ;) Scott A (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What Should the Next Guy Do?
 
(...) via my paypal account ;) Scott A (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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