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(...) The dead in Iraq won't be given that chance... Do you seriously think Bush will giver power to anyone who upsets his little apple cart? Don’t be a fool, Bush wants Bases & Oil; not freedom for Iraq! (...) (URL) Many do:> Consider the explosion (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Maybe, or maybe not. In terms of religion and faith, you yourself are far less free than I am--wouldn't you want to be free in the first place? And in any case, why must the American Vision of Freedom be the universal solution for everyone? (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think it is a bit offensive and even racist to believe that any human being wouldn't want to be free if truly given the chance. (...) What gives? Isn't that the very mantra of regulating Liberals? (...) He supports the will of the people who (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Again? That would require that we voted for him the first time. -->bruce<-- (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, heck, those wacky Iraqis might vote for Islamic extremists - an eventuality that the Guy Not Elected by "Yankees" did not even consider. Gotta save them from themselves, don't you know. Let's face it, why should Bush support the will of (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I thought (URL) this> was a great article. Two key sections of text: “Two nights ago, this most dangerous man, George Bush, talked about "freedom in Iraq". Not "democracy" in Iraq. No, "democracy" was no longer mentioned. "Democracy" was simply left (...) (20 years ago, 17-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) NO!, I said it would be a start. Israel is perfectly entitled to defend itself... nothing more! (URL) this>: "The Israeli occupation army and paramilitary Jewish settlers have killed 545 Palestinian children and minors since the outbreak of (...) (20 years ago, 15-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So you are suggesting that if Israel stopped any and all violence against the Palestinians, that specific action would then stop Palestinian terror? Naive and wrong. (...) Those borders were pretty much proposed already and were rejected. As (...) (20 years ago, 15-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Perhaps they could start by ending Israeli terror? Then they could return to the '67 borders and compensate refugees. Despite what the Old Testament says, the West Bank does not belong to Israel. Although it would be an injustice to the (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What specifically do you propose Israel do to end Palestinian terror? What specific options are available? JOHN (no Yankee fan here---Win Twins!) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I agree. His belief that “terrorism” can be stopped by attacking the symptoms whilst (URL) stoking the cause> is very dangerous… and mind-boggling. Scott A (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) To me, the worst part wasn't the press conference, but rather the follow-up reactions from the faithful. CSPAN this morning had a number of callers praising Dubya for his unshaking resolve, while others expressed satisfaction that Dubya had (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This been in all the local Canadian papers--not really a 'dirty little secret'. The gov't claims that this 'culling' is to help, not to hinder. Yeah, the Canadian gov't helping anyone right now is something I can live without. But who to vote (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I thought the whole tone was that of fawning sycophancy. A bunch of school kids would have been more probing. (URL) Another perspective>: Bush's demeanor was arrogant and unrepentant. Asked on numerous occasions to name things he would have (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) 1,000,000 unnecessary deaths?> "It is horrible to see the aftermath of this slaughter. There is blood everywhere. Every few feet as you walk across the ice, you pass by large pools of blood and carcasses lined up in open graves. Their eyes (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The press, at least, asked what I consider to be better questions. They seemed to be slightly apologetic or evasiv about the way they asked them--"There are those who say that.... How would you respond to those critics?" At least the questions (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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You deserve what you get. I have never seen anyone shoot himself in the foot so much than in this press coverage... "When we get this Iraq thing right..." Yeah, we're waiting on that one, Mr. President... And the constant little laughs... this is no (...) (20 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It was not a speech; Blair struggles to find a sympathetic audience in the UK these days. (...) I feel sorry for the troops; there are not enough of them and they have the wrong type of training. I blame Bush, Rumsfeld etc for the alleged (...) (20 years ago, 13-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Don’t be fooled by this; abandoning Iraq is not the only alternative. Scott A (20 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If I could stop the murder of Iraqi civilians simply by over-estimating the number of deaths, I would certainly do so. Wouldn't you? Anyway, do you have documentation for your rebuttal of Iraqbodycount's methodology? If you're correct, then (...) (20 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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