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  Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
 
(...) Not according to your current president, or some ex-judge stating that your judicial system is based on the 10 commandments--these political people are appealing to God and the Bible. I'd say it's a difference b/w Macintosh and Golden (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
 
(...) Apples and oranges, Kooties. Xtian authorities have nothing to do with civil laws. My higher authority was variously a founder of my country, one of its primary legal authors, and an incredibly politically influential person besides. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
 
(...) <snip to the part which I believe, is the relavent part to this discussion> (...) <snip> TJ was a thoughtful and thorougly well versed man. For 1786. First, it's a letter, not a law, nor part of the constitution. If this 'preserving democracy (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  He won me over...
 
(URL) convinced. Dubya was right all along. He showed that SH had lots of WoMD ready to be deployed in minutes at Americans. He apologised for 'freedom fried' and the other insults directed at France and Gemany. He talked of giving the UN full (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
 
From Thomas Jefferson to William Smith Paris, November 13, 1787 Dear Sir, -- I am now to acknowledge the receipt of your favors of October the 4th, 8th, & 26th. In the last you apologise for your letters of introduction to Americans coming here. It (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip all good links that I'll spend time readig...> (...) You'd think that if the 'equalizer' is the 'final check and balancer of the system', then the system would have that mandated somewhere, (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Intellectual Property Question
 
(...) I kind of agree with this. The question is how will the world proceed? What new mechanisms will arise to encourage artists to produce? I see a slight potential of a period of time where the availability of new art plummets. Another question is (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What's Good for the Goose....
 
(...) Because he has no problem with any other group forming using race as a basis for its existence! Black clubs and Asian clubs also "smack of racial division", but somehow they are of no concern to him. (...) I can too, but hello?! we are not in (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) This is not a small thing. See these newsbits: An open invitation to election fraud (URL) Not only is the country's leading touch-screen voting system so badly designed that votes can be easily changed, but its manufacturer is run by a (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) Well if ya wanna talk traffic, then that's a different kettle of fish. I was once driving to Toronto every weekend from work. On a good day it would be a 30 minute drive. On a bad (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Intellectual Property Question
 
Welcome to 20 minutes into the future, people. Copyrights are dead. Patents are dead. IP is dead. Digital means infinitely reproducible. And as William Gibson has observed: "the street has its own uses for things." It's not a matter of what is right (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) And we're right back to the beginning. I went to university, I minored in poli-sci and, occasionally, I went to class...(1) I had to read your constitution. I studied your laws. I looked at the democratic process. Not once did it say in *any* (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Intellectual Property Question
 
(...) Isn't the whole point of making a copy so you can still use the material even if the original is damaged. Unless the record company can prove you did not purchase the CD in the first place they should not have a case against you. (...) I think (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) The opinions of a handful of politicians are irrelavent (as if they would be honest about it anyway.) You (and your politicians) can believe whatever hippy notions you want about the power of the people, but the real power of the people comes (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's Good for the Goose....
 
(...) Oops, substitute "the local NAACP leader" in the places I put McCelland's name. -->Bruz<-- (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's Good for the Goose....
 
(...) I don't see how it is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Inasmuch as the minority groups formed due to ostracism, and the "white" group is not forming for the same reason, I can see where McCelland's concern is coming from. It seems (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Globalization: The price of dignity
 
(...) more like a global free-for-all (...) Sadly, it's not an equation to begin with, it's favoritism for the monetary/political elite. I agree completely that fair (livable) wages are a must. After I had stopped my drefting job due to burnout 2 (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Globalization: The price of dignity
 
The price of dignity (URL) In the past two years, 500 export assembly factories have shut down in Mexico, throwing 218,000 workers on to the street. Their crime was the $1.26-an-hour base wage they were paid by companies such as Alcoa Fujikura to (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Democratic? (was: Sticking my gun ...)
 
(...) However the party system stuffs all that up by forcing members to vote "along party lines" instead of how their constituents want them to vote (except in conscience votes, which don't happen often in parliament). Note that I'm referring to (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) What exactly are you looking for here? Anecdotal evidence that a gun and self-reliance are political necessaries? If you don't believe that then nothing I say will change your mind. I guess I could tell you a story, but then you'd just tell me (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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