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Subject:	Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:37:27 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: > You lambaste the Christians for appealing to their higher authority, an > authority which you yourself don't recognize, why should anyone recognize > your appeal to your personal higher authority? Apples and oranges, Kooties. Xtian authorities have nothing to do with civil laws. My higher authority was variously a founder of my country, one of its primary legal authors, and an incredibly politically influential person besides. > When you give a cite, I'd like it to be a legitimate bona-fide law, > please--one that we all may recognize as an authority. Well, the 2nd Amendment then. But I suppose you will now go on ad nauseum to claim that the language is ambiguous. I will then claim that it is not ambiguous unless you want to ignore what it plainly states as understood from the perspective of well-documented authorial intent and from an historical perspective. You will then claim that the ambiguity leaves it open to modern interpretation. Blah Blah Blah yadda yadda yadda... The proof of what things mean is the fact that I own a gun. Legally. Constitutionally. As a matter of right. As a freeman. It's a political fact -- de facto. Today. Right now. Your argument is getting childish again. This bit: "TJ was a thoughtful and thorougly well versed man. For 1786." is just stupid beyond all reason... Again, I ask: are we not using guns in Iraq? Are the Iraqis not using guns on us? How is it that guns are irrelevant? And if they are not irrelevant then there goes your silly "For 1786" argument... -- Hop-Frog

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		Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
(...) Not according to your current president, or some ex-judge stating that your judicial system is based on the 10 commandments--these political people are appealing to God and the Bible. I'd say it's a difference b/w Macintosh and Golden (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
(...) <snip to the part which I believe, is the relavent part to this discussion> (...) <snip> TJ was a thoughtful and thorougly well versed man. For 1786. First, it's a letter, not a law, nor part of the constitution. If this 'preserving democracy (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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