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My Grandfather sent this to me via e-mail. I don't know if its true but it should be. ---...--- The following is an answering machine message for the Pacific Palisades High School in California. The school and teachers were being sued by parents who (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) You assume that because the U.S. doesn't know where stuff in Iraq is that the Iraqi leadership did not know where the stuff is. Simply not finding anything is not proof that there is/was nothing to find, it only means we haven't found it. We (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) Or become a scofflaw and ignore it. Or rationalize rewriting the law for yourself (sometimes known as pushing the limit to see if it really is a limit): all posted speed limits are really five MPH faster than listed, or heck, this road is a (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) Clearly all false... But I'm not sure he actually CLAIMED those things (what he did claim was bad enough in the lying department, though...), Dave! (...) I'm still in the "maybe" camp on that one, Dave! (...) As usual when discussing (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) But that's not the issue. The issue is that Bush, Rumsfeld, Powell, and Rice (among other admin officials and toadies) asserted that Saddam was an active and immediate threat with an active chemical/biological weapons program and an active (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) It was an example. I'm sure that if and when every single rock is turned over in Iraq that there will probably be some canisters of something that's been missing since around '91. That said, since this stuff is missing, it couldn't have been (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) Wait a minute. People can see that the US was missing some stuff for over 40 years and only recently found it but are complaining that we haven't found anything burried in the Iraqi desert after only a few months!? Color me confused. -Mike (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) Uh... The only thing the government can to do "help" the economy is to cut taxes. Everything else only makes it worse or at best has no impact. And please don't give me that "tax cuts for the rich" crap. The "rich" by the definition the (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) Mea culpa, I meant to say Guardian Unlimited. But I hold to the same logic. I read a diverse, international range of online sources. As long as it sounds like something more or less objective, I will read it and weigh it's significance against (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) I'm not really digging too many politicians lately, but let's at least keep in mind that the man is contending with one of the worst CA economies in a long time. He, like Shrub and the U.S. Congress, has done almost zero to better the (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) There is no need or will to deny it; I at least won't bother. However, you'll find the gap between funding a sustained terrorist action and supplying WMD to those terrorists to be very, very wide. If you can link WMD and supporting terrorists (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Costello wrote: <snip> , that does not (...) But after all that wonderful astuteness, Scott, by what right did your president have to invade a foreign country? His reasons as he listed in every speech and in every (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) I know of no mechanism for the voters to recall the president of the United States. Impeachment seems to be the only legal recourse. Yes, no? (...) Considering the long history of the United States, are you sure you wish to typify Gray Davis (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) Tell you what froggy, if you want GWB thrown out, why not take a page from the California playbook. Obviously you feel very strongly that Bush has not been a good president, and your feelings run very deep. Why not start a campaign to recall (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) the point isn't who supported terrorists and who didn't. I mean, Bush Sr helped train Osama! Reagan helped fund the mujaheddin, the religious warriors who later evolved into the Taliban! And yes SH supported suicide bombers. But specifically (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) So you deny that SH supported terrorists? How about the little stipend he offered families to have them sacrifice their children as human incendiary devices? (...) "How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?" Thanks for (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) I think the English know something about where arrogance will get you. Zulu wars, US revolution, Barbarian hordes to the north (Scottish). Something like that. I think we've got to learn yet. Mark (21 years ago, 10-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) Uh-huh. You have a link for that, John? I thought not...There is no proof to support any such allegations. That lack of proof is the very issue under discussion. The president spoke in terms of dead certainties and has come up empty-handed. (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) I believe that the perceived threat was never from the Iraqi military itself, but from the proliferation of WMD from SH's regime to terrorist elements such as Al Qaeda. JOHN (21 years ago, 10-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
White House 'lied about Saddam threat' (URL) A former US intelligence official who served under the Bush administration in the build-up to the Iraq war accused the White House yesterday of lying about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein. The claims (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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