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| Hi, I've recently seen some swearing in the posts here. I'd rather not, so please try to remain cool. thanks. -Suz Suzanne Rich Green LUGNET Admin (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) How about right in the preamble, "provide for the common defense", or how about "secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our prosperity". Bush has his justifications, even if you don't trust in them. You want to talk about (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) If the justification is there it is implicit, not explicit. Pedro (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) his >motivations for those actions or not. (...) "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Could you show me where in the federal Constitution the invasion of foreign territories is explicitly laid out as part of the duties of the U.S. President? I must have missed that day in civics class... Pathetic republican apologists unite! -- (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | | | Re: For some Lego is a religous experience. (Was: Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community)
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| (...) OK. I usually don't get into debate, but this isn't the place to talk about religous beleifs. I'm glad you have an opinion, but I for one, am 14 years old and have been an official member of my church for a year now. I don't have a problem (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) A-ha! If *I* did send a windfall your way, no way would I take credit-- I'd sign the card "from God, to Dave!" :-) (...) Whoa, you lost me. Are you saying that it is possible for an Atheist to accept the existence of a God? (...) Thank you. I (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Let's go ahead and ignore all the sweeping support GWB received in the state of Texas, and talk just about his tenure as president. I would say successfully launching campaigns to remove both the Taliban and Husein regime from power was a (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Not an intentional one. I just meant that any powerful being, like Bill Gates or Ashley Judd, could appear before me and make claims of divinity. But I'd need to see/experience convincing evidence (even if it's accessible only to me) before I (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) <snipped stuff with which I am not necessarily in disagreement> (...) "convincing case" Do I detect a caveat? (...) lol An example of a "convincing case"? So what if after having read this, I, being a Christian man of substantial means (though (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Your response is a tired joke in this case -- I think that Shrub's lack of ability in most areas of his past life show he is not trustworthy. What members of his cabinet do in his name shows me he is not trustworthy (Ashcroft re: Patriot Act). (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Of course. Guantánamo is still Cuba ;-) Pedro (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Unless you're an Arab, or have an Arab-sounding name, or have been to an Arabic nation recently, or know someone who fits any of the above criteria. Then you can be held indefinitely as an "enemy combatant," and no presumption of innocence (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) You could just ask me two different times... 8^) Anyway, you've given a nice summary of the problem of Revelation as evidence. Well said. (...) To let you (and myself) somewhat off the hook--part of my hypothetical situation was that Jesus (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Last time I checked one was *presumed* innocent until proven guilty in this country. JOHN (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Agreed, but it seems that we are damned if we do, and damned if we don't, considering what happened the last time we exited Iraq. It would be nice to get this right so that it will be our *last* visit to Iraq. JOHN (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| "Many Iraqis sceptical as Garner tours Baghdad" (URL) wrap] Washington has awarded huge reconstruction projects to US companies but ORHA, which reports to the US military, says it aims to work with Iraqis as much as possible. However, determining (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Provide me with facts that disprove the "given" part -- prove to me that Bush is right and honest. I'm not seeing it on my own. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I appreciate you trying to create an analogy that you think I might find relevant:-) But if you claimed this, how exactly could I expect to get "independent confirmation" of your claim? Personally, I'd use 2 criteria in consideration of your (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) John--if I told you that the Risen Christ appeared to me, and that He proclaimed to me that Christians have been doing everything wrong for ~2000 years, would you believe me, or would you suspect that I am either in error or am being (...) (21 years ago, 21-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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