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(...) Perhaps, but you have yet to counter many of my claims with anything like a fact or anything like authority. Like I said, I need more than lame right-wing excuses or justifications out of some moldy old book. Show me with the use of facts how (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You seem to be saying we can't judge other cultures. Can we judge people? Can we judge groups of people? How many people have to follow the same idea before we can't judge it? I would point out that many wrongdoers in the world believe that (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: I promised in a earlier post I wouldn't call you names again, so I won't tell you what I think of you, but yes, by all mean, shut up. You attacks against some cultures here are most unwelcome. Terry (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thanks Richard! You just stole me my title! ;-) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Most like USA's death penalty. Who are we to decide what is right or wrong? This is called a cultural clash. In the Muslim culture, Adultery may be one of the worst thing a person can do in his/her life. If so, it would be logical for this (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What if the belief system itself is flawed? As I understand it, to be a good muslim, one has to follow sharia (religious law). Sharia is used as civil law in many countries and in many others, it's being pushed as something that SHOULD be used (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm seeing that the term "Enlightenment" was probably too loaded a word for the idea I wished to convey. What I meant by it was an intellectual passing into the 20th Century. By most accounts I have read, it is generally agreed that Islam is (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, say we compared it to the percentage of extremist Christians for example. I don't know what that number is, but judging from reported Christian terrorist attacks I'd say that it is pretty low. Even if the percentage of extremist Muslims (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) France has long had a difficult relationship with Arab countries due to its colonialism in North Africa (Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia come to mind). That reverse migration has happened only seems appropriate: the link worked both ways. There has (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It might be useful to have a clear, legitimate tally of extremists relative to the whole sample population. We can't use the US media or Arab-state-run media, since both of these sources are tainted. There are over a billion Muslims in the (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thank you. But really, I haven't a problem with Islam per se. There are many peaceful Muslims. What I *do* have a problem with are extremist Muslims who tend to comprise a shockingly high percentage of the Muslim population, and the seemingly (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) All right. Why don't we use the term "bigot" then? (...) If you're going to use the term "enlightenment" as litmus test to determine whether a group is worthy of respect, then you need to throw out groups that work to foster pseudoscience in (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Uh, I thought that they were silently disagreeing with me. But so what if they do? You don't seem to care about what others think of your views. Are you suggesting that I keep quiet because the majority happen to think differently than I do? (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, let's put away the racist card already. Islam is a *religion*. Followers of Islam are *Muslims*. "Arab" is a race term, not "Muslim", okay? (...) Sorry I wasn't clear in my meaning: "Enlightenment" A philosophical movement of the 18th (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pot, kettle. You are probably the most uncivil individual in this NG. JOHN (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah! There it is! The proven fact that you are a racist. What? You think your religion is enlightened? Can you tell us which religions have passed the JohnNeal test of Enlightenment? Please, show the world the greatness of your prejudices! (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And it looks like British Parliament agrees with me... ---...--- "Prove Iraqi guilt, MPs tell Blair" (URL) by the turn of the year there is no WMD then the basis on which this was executed was illegal," he said. MPs are also starting to ask (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who are you to tell me this? I'm only telling one stupid person that posts racist and hateful stuff here on Lugnet that what he posts is stupid. If you endore his attitude, if you endorse what he says, it should be you who should be warned (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh, the bitterness didn't escape me. And I never claimed to ascribe to his view-- I just, as I said in my one word review, found it "interesting". How many feel the same as he? Is it a growing sentiment? I have no idea. I frankly didn't even (...) (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In countless ways you have lost this right, Lar. You rarely listen to anything anyone else may have to say about anything. And that fact has been amply shown in this forum. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 19-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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