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  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote (...) Um, Mike, at some point crims have to say "what do I have left to lose", and there had better be something. Otherwise we're going to see a lot more dead cops at the very least. Or you let cops do a (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote (...) That is one major problem, yes. Unless you have a 100% accurate legal system there is always the problem of compensating someone for a period of slavery. As we have discussed before, compensation relies (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Libertarianism again.
 
was: Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep) Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in (...) I can, but none of them strike me as realistic. The scenario itself seems to be more or less believable, in the sense that it (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 22/7 & infinities (was: Re: The nature of the JC god, good or evil?)
 
(...) Here's what I believe about the Bible. It is a collection of books edited together by many people at different times in history. It is a historical document which can be scrutinized in any manner of ways (historical criticism, literary (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
 
Todd Lehman wrote: <snip> (...) Dr. Moriarity. What a fascinating episode that was:-) And even better that they brought him back on another show! (...) *This* is classic "circle logic" If God do anything, can God create a stone he cannot lift? (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
 
Ever wonder who the person was who was recording the creation event as it happened? Wasn't Adam or Eve either, because they weren't created until "day" 6. The creation account in Genesis _is a story_. An oral tradition passed down 100s of years (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
 
(...) You misunderstand the purpose of worship. Worship is *not* required nor needed by God, but is the natural expression of thanks by His people for what God has done/is doing/will do. Worship should be joyful. What God requires of us is to love (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) Do you mean because we'd have a situation where officials would trump up charges to enslave innocents, or are you arguing that someone guilty of a crime with a victim (who has forfeited his rights because he would not acknowledge that others (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
 
I find it interesting that you can twist around what I say so remarkably, since it seems to be one of your hot buttons to accuse others of twisting YOUR words. Your god requires worship in a specific way. Why is that not groveling? My morality is (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How to decide what art is worth (was Re: Extropianism
 
(...) Because it's an opinion, and thus subject to polling (in the form of box office receipts), rather than proving or disproving (...) Ditto, although I'd say right now the system is rigged so the GP doesn't get a fair chance to say what they (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) Maybe in other countries. But in the US, "for the most part" what we have is drug offenders. There are more people in prison for drug offenses than there are for crimes with victims. And THAT: - is one of the reasons we have the highest per (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) What's so weird about it? Seriously. (...) Really? I got angry at people from time to time. I took myself way too seriously, and essentially plotted murder on a couple of occasions. When the littleton killings took place, I thought 'there, but (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How to decide what art is worth (was Re: Extropianism
 
(...) I would say that they are an adequate judge of both. They may spend their cash on each as they see fit. And they're wrong on both counts. --Chris (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
 
Tom McDonald <radiotitan@yanospamhoo.com> wrote in message news:FH7715.B0z@lugnet.com... (...) Well, I've talked to a lot of old school Catholics, and they're pretty bent on the works side of salvation. I think it's leftovers from the (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
 
Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:37C75232.865AD2...ger.net... (...) I find it interesting how you make your own judgements about what is righteous and what is groveling, and then condemn God for not living up to your own (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 22/7 & infinities (was: Re: The nature of the JC god, good or evil?)
 
Simon Robinson <simon@simonrobinson.com> wrote in message news:FHAL2G.JHJ@lugnet.com... (...) I guess I missed the gist of the message. Besides, in the end this isn't about deduction, it's about faith. I can't prove there's anything special about (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How to decide what art is worth (was Re: Extropianism
 
Christopher Weeks <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:37C6AA90.8AAC20...pse.net... (...) Here's the million dollar qustion: how can the general public be competent enough to be an adequate judge of movie quality (or of political (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: 22/7 & infinities (was: Re: The nature of the JC god, good or evil?)
 
Tom, [I've snipped and shifted around the order of your last posting in order to put my replies read in a more logical order] (...) No, where appropriate I'm arguing on the basis that it is in order to see where that leads. That doesn't mean I'm (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What Americans think of Europeans (was Re: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) It was "ostracized all of your most productive and thinking people and sent them away". Very true; if you use your head for a living or are planning on it (i.e. this starts at the college-entrance level), the move from Europe to the US (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep
 
(...) Goes back to the revolutionary war at least. A quick Altavista search turned up a couple possibilities: (URL) Frank Filz ---...--- Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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