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Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
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Date: 
Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:28:32 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote:

<snip>

Can God do anything?  If the answer to that is Yes, then could He create a
Universe which is more complex than he can understand and predict and
pre-know every aspect of?  (Remember when Data asked the holodeck to create
a character that could defeat him?)

Dr. Moriarity.  What a fascinating episode that was:-)  And even better that they
brought him back on another show!

If God can do anything, can he create
something so complex that he can no longer understand it?  (It's extremely
easy, for example, for us humans to create things so complex that we can no
longer understand them.)

*This* is classic "circle logic" If God do anything, can God create a stone he
cannot lift?

If God can do anything, then can he make himself disappear from his own
plane of existence?  If he can, then can he also make himself come back
after he's gone?  If so, then can he make himself go away so strongly that
he cannot bring himself back no matter how hard he tries?

I submit that there are things that God cannot do.  Discuss.  :)

Pretty tough IMHO to start speculating about God.  It's like a 2 dimensional
species living on a plane trying to comprehend a cube.  As the cube passes
through the plane (depending upon what angle, too), it creates either a square,
various sized rectangles, or various sized triangles.  The species sees the cube
as it passes through and think they understand what they have just seen, using
their best tools.  But their perception is doomed from the start because they
haven't the capability to see 3 dimensionally.  As are we trying to understand
God.

-John



--Todd



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  Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
 
(...) Exactly: it's a proof by contradiction, proving that there's nothing that can do anything. I guess it challenges the definition of what "anything" means. (...) Also various line segments, various non-regular pentagons, various non- regular (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
 
(...) Questions: If this little Universe we're in is a simple enough dynamical system that all aspects of it can be pre-known by God, or if God can compute the answer faster than the machine (the Universe) itself can, then why did God create such a (...) (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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