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Re: God and the Devil and forgiveness (was Re: POV-RAY orange color)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:54:07 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal <johnneal@uswest.net> writes:
> > If God can do anything, can he create
> > something so complex that he can no longer understand it? (It's extremely
> > easy, for example, for us humans to create things so complex that we can
> > no longer understand them.)
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> *This* is classic "circle logic" If God do anything, can God create a stone
> he cannot lift?
Exactly: it's a proof by contradiction, proving that there's nothing that
can do anything. I guess it challenges the definition of what "anything"
means.
> > If God can do anything, then can he make himself disappear from his own
> > plane of existence? If he can, then can he also make himself come back
> > after he's gone? If so, then can he make himself go away so strongly that
> > he cannot bring himself back no matter how hard he tries?
> >
> > I submit that there are things that God cannot do. Discuss. :)
>
> Pretty tough IMHO to start speculating about God. It's like a 2
> dimensional species living on a plane trying to comprehend a cube. As the
> cube passes through the plane (depending upon what angle, too), it creates
> either a square, various sized rectangles, or various sized triangles.
Also various line segments, various non-regular pentagons, various non-
regular hexagons, and in two very special cases, a point, and a regular
hexagon! :)
> The species sees the cube as it passes through and think they understand
> what they have just seen, using their best tools. But their perception is
> doomed from the start because they haven't the capability to see 3
> dimensionally. As are we trying to understand God.
OK. But pure logic transcends dimensionalities. Perhaps there are parts of
God which can be accurately modeled with logic. Maybe we don't know which
parts, though. But certainly, pure logic is either more perfect or equal
than perfect to God. God cannot be more more perfect than pure logic.
--Todd
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