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Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
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Date: 
Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:01:52 GMT
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Moz (Chris Moseley) wrote:

Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote
Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote:
I'm agin em because of the error factor, and because I want the
criminals working their fingers off the rest of their days paying
restitution to the victims.

Larry, I believe even the USA abolished slavery some time ago. Unless
you let the prisoners choose, and pay them, then you've just bought
it back.

Do you mean because we'd have a situation where officials would trump up
charges to enslave innocents, or are you arguing that someone guilty of
a crime with a victim (who has forfeited his rights because he would not
acknowledge that others have rights too) should not be forced to make up
for it.

If the former, totally agree, careful safeguards against that would be
needed. Here's one (that we don't have now): Make elected officials
personally liable for malfeasance instead of hiding behind the official
actions shield.

If the latter, totally disagree, you're wrong. Reason out why I say
that, starting from first principles and you might well convince
yourself you're wrong too.

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  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote (...) That is one major problem, yes. Unless you have a 100% accurate legal system there is always the problem of compensating someone for a period of slavery. As we have discussed before, compensation relies (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote (...) Larry, I believe even the USA abolished slavery some time ago. Unless you let the prisoners choose, and pay them, then you've just bought it back. (...) Frying is known to be ineffective. at least (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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