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Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:00:29 GMT
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Mike Stanley wrote:
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> Christopher Weeks <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote:
> > What I don't buy from Mike's opinion is that murder isn't sometimes
> > understandable. For instance, I can imagine being a troubled thirteen
> > year old (I was) who is failing at school, but very gifted (I was), and
> > has a few misanthropic friends and no girlfriends while still having
> > raging hormones (me again), and is duped by youthful stupidity into
> > killing some particularly obnoxious peer (I didn't do this part). Now,
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> That's one heckuva weird scenario.
What's so weird about it? Seriously.
> I probably fit into most of that as well, and I don't ever recall
> being put into a situation where peer pressure or anything else might
> have suggested that I murder someone.
Really? I got angry at people from time to time. I took myself way too
seriously, and essentially plotted murder on a couple of occasions.
When the littleton killings took place, I thought 'there, but for the
grace of God, go I.' I never killed anyone and I'm glad, but to some
degree I think it was more luck than some innate value.
> > you can take the hard approach and say that kid ought to be put down
> > before it breeds, and I can respect that, but I can also see how
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> Yep, put the kid down.
And if my feeling above is true, and we can (I hope) agree that I
shouldn't be put down by the system out of hand, then why if I had
slipped up, or been in the wrong place at the wrong time?
> > properly handled, such a child could turn into a very productive member
> > of society who lives a life remorse for his early crime.
> >
> > Does that matter?
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> No. Murder is final. No second chance, no reformation, no getting
> better. You commit murder (true murder, not justifiable homicides)
> and you lose all priveleges as a human being, in my mind.
Why? How broad is justifiable? You cite battered women, and I think of
that as an extreme of where murder is justifiable, not a maybe point.
> > What do we as a society do about that?
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> Dunno. I think that scenario you described is a little too strange to
> really think about.
Again, I'm interested to know what's so strange about it.
Thanks,
Chris
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