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(...) Maybe in other countries. But in the US, "for the most part" what we have is drug offenders. There are more people in prison for drug offenses than there are for crimes with victims. And THAT: - is one of the reasons we have the highest per (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What's so weird about it? Seriously. (...) Really? I got angry at people from time to time. I took myself way too seriously, and essentially plotted murder on a couple of occasions. When the littleton killings took place, I thought 'there, but (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would say that they are an adequate judge of both. They may spend their cash on each as they see fit. And they're wrong on both counts. --Chris (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Tom McDonald <radiotitan@yanospamhoo.com> wrote in message news:FH7715.B0z@lugnet.com... (...) Well, I've talked to a lot of old school Catholics, and they're pretty bent on the works side of salvation. I think it's leftovers from the (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:37C75232.865AD2...ger.net... (...) I find it interesting how you make your own judgements about what is righteous and what is groveling, and then condemn God for not living up to your own (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Simon Robinson <simon@simonrobinson.com> wrote in message news:FHAL2G.JHJ@lugnet.com... (...) I guess I missed the gist of the message. Besides, in the end this isn't about deduction, it's about faith. I can't prove there's anything special about (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Christopher Weeks <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:37C6AA90.8AAC20...pse.net... (...) Here's the million dollar qustion: how can the general public be competent enough to be an adequate judge of movie quality (or of political (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Tom, [I've snipped and shifted around the order of your last posting in order to put my replies read in a more logical order] (...) No, where appropriate I'm arguing on the basis that it is in order to see where that leads. That doesn't mean I'm (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It was "ostracized all of your most productive and thinking people and sent them away". Very true; if you use your head for a living or are planning on it (i.e. this starts at the college-entrance level), the move from Europe to the US (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Goes back to the revolutionary war at least. A quick Altavista search turned up a couple possibilities: (URL) Frank Filz ---...--- Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hrmmm... interesting take on that opinion, I suppose. Certainly one of the ways people would try to prevent prison labor. 'Course, in my limited understanding of how prison industries work right now, the prisoners do, in fact, get paid. IMO, (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote (...) Larry, I believe even the USA abolished slavery some time ago. Unless you let the prisoners choose, and pay them, then you've just bought it back. (...) Frying is known to be ineffective. at least (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's one heckuva weird scenario. I probably fit into most of that as well, and I don't ever recall being put into a situation where peer pressure or anything else might have suggested that I murder someone. (...) Yep, put the kid down. (...) (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And even if they are otherwise normal, so what? I say someone just like me but who has taken another human's life is substantially different and needs special handling - like restitutive incarceration. What I don't buy from Mike's opinion is (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If you read the threads you'd remember. No free goods, as Larry would say. One in particular, though, that stands out in my mind, is the one about the man who'd worked for a plant all his life, then suddenly the plant closes down, he finds (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, I am. Maybe you think it's a fault to judge other people by their actions. I don't. Let's see, what types of people do we have in prisons, for the most part? Murderers, rapists, child molesters, thieves, etc. Yep, scum. Maybe you think (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mike, (...) they (...) be (...) reasons (...) What was bogus about the scenarios? (...) No problems with that - I believe that as well. (...) OK - since you 'actually *think* about things' <grin>, can you explain exactly who the person, entity or (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 'let the scum sit in a prison...' ??? Not judgemental about other people at all are we! The people - and as Larry pointed out there are doubtless many - who didn't commit any crime but ended up in prison anyway because a jury incorrectly (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd go for that in Libertopia. In reality, though, prisoners can't really be "forced" to work, can they? Or is that a state by state, thing? If the choices are let the scum sit in a prison watching tv and reading books, maybe even taking (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Banned? I musta missed that notice. I know some people prefer African-American, but I sure don't. Most black people I know use black. (...) Yeah, I just saw a story on CNN about all the seemingly racist talk going on in Norway right now during (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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