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Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
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Date: 
Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:48:12 GMT
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Moz (Chris Moseley) <moz1@ihug.com.au> wrote:
I'm agin em because of the error factor, and because I want the
criminals working their fingers off the rest of their days paying
restitution to the victims.

Larry, I believe even the USA abolished slavery some time ago. Unless
you let the prisoners choose, and pay them, then you've just bought
it back.

Hrmmm... interesting take on that opinion, I suppose.  Certainly one
of the ways people would try to prevent prison labor.  'Course, in my
limited understanding of how prison industries work right now, the
prisoners do, in fact, get paid.  IMO, simply providing them with
food, shelter, clothing, and everything else that they need to survive
would count as payment.

If the choices are let the scum sit in a prison watching tv and
reading books, maybe even taking courses and such, or frying them, I
say fry 'em.

Frying is known to be ineffective. at least with the legal system you
have chosen. Even by the most generous estimates it is cheaper to
keep someone in prison for life than to execute them in the USA.

Well, our legal system is a little flakey.  I'm not interested in
reforming criminals, or deterrance when it comes to executing capital
criminals.  I'm interested in executing them.  If potential capital
offenders have so little fear of our legal system that the fact that
someone was just executed for murder doesn't deter them, so be it.  We
can execute them too.

Using a legal system designed primarily to enrich lawyers in an
attempt to find justice is like asking politicians to find the
most efficient way to acheive something.

Agreed.

Moz
(deeply cynical about all legal systems)

Deeply passionate about punishing murdering scum.

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  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote (...) Um, Mike, at some point crims have to say "what do I have left to lose", and there had better be something. Otherwise we're going to see a lot more dead cops at the very least. Or you let cops do a (...) (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
Agree with a lot of what you say, but have to jump all over this. (...) They were no such thing and you're well aware of it. (25 years ago, 31-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) Who said execution for any violation? Keep the open flames away from all that straw, please. Les Mis - seen the poster. Read some Dickens. Mostly bored with history after 479 AD. Wasn't aware that the French Revolution or any period in English (...) (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
<37CBE249.ED54241B@voyager.net> <FHDLLL.AM6@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Straw dog. Not even worthy of the straw man title. You're positing from false assumptions, then attacking your (...) (25 years ago, 1-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote (...) Larry, I believe even the USA abolished slavery some time ago. Unless you let the prisoners choose, and pay them, then you've just bought it back. (...) Frying is known to be ineffective. at least (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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