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Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
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Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:26:37 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Stanley writes:
> > I'm agin em because of the error factor, and because I want the
> > criminals working their fingers off the rest of their days paying
> > restitution to the victims.
> 
> I'd go for that in Libertopia.  In reality, though, prisoners can't
> really be "forced" to work, can they?  Or is that a state by state,
> thing?
> 
> If the choices are let the scum sit in a prison watching tv and
> reading books, maybe even taking courses and such, or frying them, I
> say fry 'em.

'let the scum sit in a prison...' ???
Not judgemental about other people at all are we!

The people - and as Larry pointed out there are doubtless many -
who didn't commit any
crime but ended up in prison anyway because a jury incorrectly thought
they had  - are they scum as well?

Don't get me wrong - there are a lot of hardened criminals and generally
pretty nasty people around. And unlike Larry and Richard I'd say I can see
a reason for having the death penalty as long as it's only used in
exceptional cases. There's also a lot of people - especially young people -
who make a few mistakes, mix with the wrong crowd, etc. but who are
otherwise just normal human beings. By all means punish them in order
to provide a deterrent to others tempted to follow the same path. Make sure
they do make it up to their victims.  But just giving them a blanket label
of 'scum' isn't particularly helpful.

Simon
http://www.SimonRobinson.com



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  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) Yes, I am. Maybe you think it's a fault to judge other people by their actions. I don't. Let's see, what types of people do we have in prisons, for the most part? Murderers, rapists, child molesters, thieves, etc. Yep, scum. Maybe you think (...) (27 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Misperceptions of America (Was: Conversation w/ a LEGO Rep)
 
(...) I'd go for that in Libertopia. In reality, though, prisoners can't really be "forced" to work, can they? Or is that a state by state, thing? If the choices are let the scum sit in a prison watching tv and reading books, maybe even taking (...) (27 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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