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  Re: Is this an overreaction and a violation of rights?
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes: We MUST avoid letting paranoia destroy our freedom. (...) It's a little late to be thinking like that. Millions of dollars have been handed over for hightech security just for this purpose. Here in (...) (22 years ago, 22-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Is this an overreaction and a violation of rights?
 
I was just reading this news item: (URL) think it is extremely scary that a woman has been arrested on the sole evidence of a surveillance camera, and her sister is being charged with accessory to a crime. While the incident caught on tape might (...) (22 years ago, 22-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why start with Iraq? - (Re: Iraq, Dictators, and Peace)
 
(...) Let's be real clear that such a foreign policy is likely NOT in the interest of the people of the U.S. -- far from it. By contrast, it may very well be in the interest of people like Bush, Jr. and his type. But tell ya what, Scott -- you reign (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why start with Iraq? - (Re: Iraq, Dictators, and Peace)
 
(...) If one has to start somewhere, Iraq is a pretty good place to start. Of course, one has to question Dubya's reasons (and complete lack of backing up his rhetoric with any thing like facts) for starting in the first place. (...) It's good for (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Why start with Iraq? - (Re: Iraq, Dictators, and Peace)
 
(...) Which is what I wrote. I also said the United Nations should be doing it. (...) Its as good as anyplace to start. I also said EVERY dictatorship should be eradicated. Did you even read the post? -Mike Petrucelli (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Why start with Iraq? - (Re: Iraq, Dictators, and Peace)
 
(...) Why start with Iraq? Why try to overthrow democracy in Central America? Why support Musharraf in Pakistan? Why fund human rights abuses in Israel? Why make excuses for the Saudi's? Why back “democracy” in Kuwait? Why make a sponsor of (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Iraq, Dictators, and Peace
 
Maybe I read you wrong...I thought you were pointing out that someone had suggested liberation, while someone else shrugged it off and I hadn't heard anything of the sort... (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Iraq, Dictators, and Peace
 
(...) need (...) can (...) Yeah, that's the problem. Wouldn't it be nice if our great grandchildren could call themselves citizens of Earth. It would be a costly endevor to say the least, but it could be done. Liberating the people and educating (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Iraq, Dictators, and Peace
 
(...) Sure it's a great idea, but are we really going to make life better for them? Are we going to replace the entire government and force industry to establish a suitable minimum wage? Are we going to force the new government to spread the wealth (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) So an armed citizenry is not an implied threat? (...) You are completely missing the point. When (not if) the government becomes corrupt to the point that it is no longer a democracy, it is time for the people to invoke their second amendment (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) That's a reasonable objection, but I think the essential point remains regardless of my incomplete and anecdotal listing, especially remembering the fact that previous debates here have been disembowelled by pointing out that "correlation (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Iraq, Dictators, and Peace
 
Lets see the fastest way to achieve World Peace would be to nuke the entire planet. The world would be a peace. The best way to acheive World Peace would be for the United Nations to systematiclly eliminate any and all non-democratic governments and (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: weasels are eating my flesh...
 
I forgot about Carnivore! (see how quickly important stuff is forgotten when you're so busy trying to live your life?) Didn't they change the name to Magic Lantern? Or something like that? To tone down the voracious sounding "Carnivore"? (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  weasels are eating my flesh...
 
(...) With the technology (similar to that of) Carnivore, it could have happened already, web crawling spiders may well have already taken down the names of everyone who ever posted to this newsgroup as potential subversives. How's that for a cheery (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  American soldiers in Canada...
 
I don't have a source available; I was wondering if anyone else has heard/read about American military forces joining with Canadian to "protect" the Northern coasts against terrorist infiltration. The idea worrys me. I've actually considered getting (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) "here" == lugnet.off-topic.debate not merely this particular thread. Our republic is broken, at least to some extent, I gave you 3 examples of why, out of many many many more possible ones. That's completely on topic to where this thread is (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) I was just thinking, this last bit is the answer to the claim that we are stick on an outdated piece of paper. If the 2nd really is not appropriate as originally intended, then lets change it. The Constitution tells us how to change it. If a (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) to (...) But it's typical to assume that the factors which multiple study venues (in this case) fail to have in common are most likely trivial in their causative power when compared to a single factor that is common across the study. If a (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
(...) Sign me up for that! Darn solicitors--thank you but I already have one more credit card than I need (have a grande total of 1) I don't need any more newspaper subscriptions, I don't need my carpet cleaned, I don't need your magazine! Stop (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Those stupid liberal judges are at it again!
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) <snip> Gerrymandering? Brought up in this thread? Like h-e-double hockey sticks they have, Larry... Do a search in this *entire* thread and show me, up until this post of yours, when (...) (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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