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(URL) idea of veracity (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) to (...) things right rather than dragging our feet. We should have supplied the lost meds at the cost that that factory would have while we rebuilt the factory. And we should have paid for the medical expenses and of everyone who has a valid (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Still pondering--Dan's statistics threw me for a loop, and I was ruminating with Chris on a connected matter. Dave! (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I know little about courts in the USA, but in the UK George Robertson's (arguably a failed politician) say so is not good enough for a conviction. Would that wash in the USA? NB : I want justice not revenge. (...) OK. So we have a dispute (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, that's good enough for me... lets bomb them! (not). What about the "evidence" NATO had when it bombed the Chinese embassy? Was it not duff? What about the "evidence" the USA had when it bombed Sudan? Was it not duff? See: (URL) A (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I expect they think the Taliban will reject it. That is why this whole thing needs to move away from TV studios and go to the UN. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed, I can remember the problems the UK had extraditing terrorists from the USA... Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But a good deal of others are. Over the last few weeks there has been a lot of talk about how weak air security within the US compared the the rest of the "west". (...) Like I said, I just worry about corners being cut. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Come on Larry! Can you clear this one up? Scott A (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Frank, Here is an easy one to fix. Try to read the whole text, look at the claimed impact that "mess" has had on the whole country: (URL) A (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Come on Larry, I really am interested in what you think freedom & liberty means, both within the context of the text I quoted and your fondness for the thoughts of George Roberson. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dave, Have you thought this over yet? Scott A (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I wonder if Charlton Heston owns one yet? (the preceding is meant as a purely good-natured jab, rather that a veiled gun control diatribe!) Dave! (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Point? (...) What is the point of this post? Do you agree with Tony? Do you think he is wrong? Scott A (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I addressed that in another post (it is deep in the "War" war). Lord Robertson is either fooled by faked evidence, in on the gag, or the evidence does actualy exist. (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GKLyuC.EK9@lugnet.com... (...) What's new? They have been saying this everyday. And yet everyday is a 'toughest warning yet' Now they seem to be saying everyday they have conclusive (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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...anything for some cheap advertising. (URL) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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... to kill each other. (URL) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Also: "Science can't make that choice for us, only the moral power of a world acting as a community can." But then from the same article: "This is a battle with only one outcome: our victory, not theirs," A rather naive view of battle. and: (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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From: (URL) Blair: "if they could have murdered not 7,000 but 70,000 does anyone doubt they would have done so and rejoiced?" From: (URL) one of the toughest warnings yet to the Taliban from a Western leader, Blair said there could be no compromise (...) (23 years ago, 3-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) of allowing them to give us a good beating (...) us at cricket and they will forget we are (...) P'haps 'cos it's too hard to play cricket in a kilt... ROSCO FUT: .o-t.fun (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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For sake of clarity in this discussion, I think that Saddam Hussein is a sick and twisted individual who has perpetrated much evil in this world and I would walk with a lighter step if I found out that he were killed. That said, I can go on and say (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, my point has always been that even if no one is "free" of blame (or fault or responsibility, to use the language of that prior debate), someone is almost invariably demonstrably and culpably more responsible for the event. If, (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Because it was expensive. Everything has a price and sometimes we're not willing to pay it. (...) I agree with the final comment. Why would a government agency provide more sure widget maintenance than would a private corporation. (...) I'm (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I wouldn't call them great lengths... (...) ...but I do still think that blame is virtually always shared by manny. (...) I'm not sure it's possible unless I'm just to drop it. It seems like the meat of the point. (...) But your (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who are you referring to here? bin Laden as has been suggested here by some before? If bin Laden... From AP ((URL) NATO (news - web sites) headquarters in Brussels, Belgium, the alliance's secretary general, Lord Robertson, said the United (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Scotland's forte is Snooker(1) and Darts (pub games)(2). Scott A (1. S. Hendry used to play in my home town – he lived about 5 miles away) (2. I went to the same school Jockie Wilson's kids!) Overseas readers : If you have never heard of these (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:GKL6Lv.H9n@lugnet.com... (...) taken (...) I doubt it is very different. Extremists in some countries hate the UK. Extremists in some countries hate the USA. Majority of people in the same (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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More information for everyone and should be of particular interest to Christians and Jews: + The Biblical Garden of Eden was located in Iraq, where the first man and woman were created and where God's first covenant with humanity was made. + God's (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Just a few positive facts to ponder: + Human civilization began over 5,000 years ago in what is now Southern Iraq. + Iraq, in ancient times known as Mesopotamia, is located between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers - the cradle of human civilization. (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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These are some cold statistics regarding the sanctions against Iraq, which do have a profound impact on the Iraqi people regardless of what anyone says or thinks who is to blame. The sanctions only further strengthen, not weaken, Saddam Hussein's (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Heck no - I'm talking about the current messes. Why build bases in places like Saudi-Arabia? Because of their love for democracy. Why support Israel? Why continue the current mess in Iraq. Why seek the extradition of an individuals without (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is a *very* interesting point. The UK, France & Holland have very suspect colonial pasts. Why is it that the people we oppressed don't hate us like so much of the world appears to hate the USA? Is the collective memory short or does the (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Dave I have provided support for my argument. I have never said that I think 500,000 have died due to sanctions. Never. I disagree with Larry when he says none have died. I think a great deal have, but I have no idea how many. That is my argument. I (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) His answer was not a valid answer. Therefore it is not an answer... and that's the best I can do to get out of that one! :) (...) Independent of me! Seriously, I tend to get news which does not follow political dogma. The BBC is independent as (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't worry. I'm very happy to be part of the UK *and* Europe. Scotland has 10% of the UK population, but 90% of the culture (and 95% of the tooth decay and heart disease!) :0 Scott A (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hideous, (...) I was talking more about how the air industry has weakened security proposals in the past - not their failure to implement existing regulations. (...) it's (...) it. (...) So (...) work, (...) My worry is that if the market is (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As I recall, you're willing to go to great lengths to assign a measure of blame to those who do not cause the events that befall them: (URL) and elsewhere so I suppose you're willing to extend the concept of blame beyond what I would consider (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Lawrence Wilkes" <lawrence@thewilkesf...rve.co.uk> wrote in message news:GKL3y3.Ay9@lugnet.com... (...) taken (...) And for Scott's benefit, I should have included the independance of Scotland of course Mel Gibson is not going to let us forget (...) (23 years ago, 2-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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