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OK, Rich, send me all your Lego. After all, you don't OWN it ;-) (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But God doesn't exist. (Don't bring up God and hold it over everyone, it's been debated to death in here.) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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See, I WAS right - Kalifornia blinders. Bruce, I hate to break this to you, but lots of other states think Kalifornia is a looney bin and so are many of its' laws ;-) (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Pull bread knife out of drawer, put in dead criminal's hand, let drop to floor. (...) You sexist PIG. Woman can sexually assault people too. (...) Only in Kalifornia would you meet Bubba. In most sane states, you wouldn't. (...) You've got (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You know, I am willing to go a fair way down that road with your friend. Thinking of ourselves as stewards of things is not at all a bad idea. Welcome to the lending library of the flesh... -- Hop-Frog (anyone want my froggy skin when I am (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, Bruce, but if someone breaks into my dwelling, I'm not going to Debate with him as to his intent. BREAKING IN shows the intent, as far as I'm concerned. They'd better be ready to accept the consequences for their action. -- Tom Stangl (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bruce, you live in Kalifornia, right? You're looking at the world through blinders. MANY states pretty much allow you to shoot first and ask questions later. And if you can prove state of mind, you can walk. You need to head East every once in (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hm, maybe because we are successfully raising bald eagles and releasing them to the wild? (...) Tell that to the treehuggers that are snarling up the courts to delay projects left and right. (...) Moving ONE eagle != wiping out the species. (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Just as people sue Smith & Wesson, Winchester, and Colt- we should be able to sue Ford and GM for hit-and-run accidents (vehicular homicide) in that the make of the car driven by the offender should be brought into question. It's not the gun that (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Chris brings up a good point in sarcastic kind of way; Is man capable of living in a crime free society? Think back to the story of Eden, only two people and they too committed a crime even though they were living the "perfect" life. I think (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I know this was a throw-away comment, but... One could be against the notion of ownership and still be reasonable in owning stuff under our current system. I know someone who thinks that we should accept that we are at best stewards of (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right. One good thing Scott did, long ago, was provide a link to David Friedman's(1) site, which among many other good things, provides a good example of how natural rights don't always work out, and then demonstrates how you can use a cost (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) private (...) be (...) You know what? Not all crimes involve guns. Not all crimes involve cars. But ALL crimes involve brains. If we made it illegal to possess a brain, ALL crime would stop. We could remove brains from children as they are (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, every argument can be beaten down to some foundational principle that is a mere assertion that some may not agree with. I am not sure I have ever seen a philosophical argument that didn't ultimately break down that way. I'd be well (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (traffic (...) contradict (...) There is only one God. (Gods are simply God acting in different forms. God is also the life force that surrounds everyone. Either Way God is God and there is only one.) Considering the Constitution does not (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Bruce: No offense, but this is a rather small point you are making. Okay, okay -- reasonableness in the use of firearm is prerequisite. Fine. I don't actually think anyone is arguing with that as a foundation before deadly force is used. I have (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whose God's law? Mine or yours? Thankfully the US constitution makes it pretty clear that it stands above God's law. (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, IANAL but the text does treat someone in your domicile as a special case. Still, the class I took in Florida did go into this, and you don't get to just brandish your gun or pop off whenever you feel like, there has to be some (as Bruce (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sigh. You haven't followed the conversation have you? I have a 12 gauge and a rifle. I used to have an assortment of handguns. I've been trained by a police officer and a marine sniper. I have a sword, to boot (and yes, trained in that, too, (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Now that I have my ability to post again... The whole idea of gun control (regardless of what the majority belive) is uncostitutional. Our founding father's in their infinite wisdom drafted the constitution to protect everyone's rights from the (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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