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Re: National vote on handguns?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 24 Jul 2001 06:25:13 GMT
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Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Duane Hess writes:
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> > OK, you are right with regard to the fireman situation. I should have
> > qualified the unidentified person better. In general, if a stranger is in my
> > home uninvited I'll be going after them with everything that I have until
> > they are either subdued, incapacitated or dead (or I am one of the latter
> > two). I'm automatically assuming that I am in danger because the sactity and
> > safety of my home has already been violated, so who's to say the intruder
> > cares about my personal safety? And that stands regardless of age.
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> That argument won't stand up in court. Well, maybe it will in Texas...
Bruce, you live in Kalifornia, right?
You're looking at the world through blinders. MANY states pretty much allow you to shoot
first and ask questions later. And if you can prove state of mind, you can walk.
You need to head East every once in a while ;-)
> > You answer is a good example of why I think people who want firearms should
> > > be required to take a course and pass a test (not just about the safe
> > > handling of weapons, but also the legal ramifications of using them).
> >
> >
> > To put your mind at ease, I do not own a firearm in the technical sense. The
> > closest thing I have is a paintball gun. (By the time I located all of the
> > necessary parts to fire it, plus some good paintballs I'm sure the whole
> > event would be over.) But you can be sure that I won't be an easy target.
> > I've already made that mistake once and it cost me some very nice power >tools...
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> Ahhh, the Death Penalty for power tools! Forgive me if I was not paying
> attention: is that more defensible than the Death Penalty for a crust of bread?
Criminals are committing crimes (duh). They do this knowing that they could get in
serious trouble, including getting killed. Yet they still commit. If someone breaks
into my home while I'm there, I'm going to damned well assume they mean me bodily harm,
and gun or no, they're Dead Meat. They've assumed the risk, so they can't complain about
the consequences (especially if they're dead).
> > What's mine is mine. The only people entitled to what I have are the people
> > who I am legally obligated to share with, or who I deem worthy.
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> Hey, no problem with that, but if you think that entitles you to kill
> somebody running off with your crust of bread, either don't buy a gun or get
> a really expensive lawyer.
Luckily, in many states, it won't cost you much in defense to get off.
Yet another reason (among MANY) that I'm getting the hell out of Dodge (Kalifornia) as
soon as I can afford it.
--
Tom Stangl
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| (...) That argument won't stand up in court. Well, maybe it will in Texas... (...) Ahhh, the Death Penalty for power tools! Forgive me if I was not paying attention: is that more defensible than the Death Penalty for a crust of bread? (...) Hey, no (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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