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Re: National vote on handguns?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:29:22 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Duane Hess writes:
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> OK, you are right with regard to the fireman situation. I should have
> qualified the unidentified person better. In general, if a stranger is in my
> home uninvited I'll be going after them with everything that I have until
> they are either subdued, incapacitated or dead (or I am one of the latter
> two). I'm automatically assuming that I am in danger because the sactity and
> safety of my home has already been violated, so who's to say the intruder
> cares about my personal safety? And that stands regardless of age.
That argument won't stand up in court. Well, maybe it will in Texas...
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> > You answer is a good example of why I think people who want firearms should
> > be required to take a course and pass a test (not just about the safe
> > handling of weapons, but also the legal ramifications of using them).
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> To put your mind at ease, I do not own a firearm in the technical sense. The
> closest thing I have is a paintball gun. (By the time I located all of the
> necessary parts to fire it, plus some good paintballs I'm sure the whole
> event would be over.) But you can be sure that I won't be an easy target.
> I've already made that mistake once and it cost me some very nice power >tools...
Ahhh, the Death Penalty for power tools! Forgive me if I was not paying
attention: is that more defensible than the Death Penalty for a crust of bread?
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> > All bets are off in Texas, of course, where you used to get to shoot your
> > wife if you caught her in comprimising circumstances.
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> > > Granted, there have been a couple of unfortunate "mistakes" where a family
> > > member has been taken out by another person living in the residence. Or the
> > > cops having the wrong address on their search warrant. In general, I'm glad
> > > to have that law in place. I would like to have the opportunity waste the
> > > scumbag who has the balls to sneak into my residence and take property (or
> > > worse) which I spent my hard-earned money on. The only thing you have to be
> > > sure of is finishing the job, otherwise you could find yourself in a big
> > > lawsuit and paying money to the bonehead who was robbing you in the first >>place.
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> > Ahhhh, the Death Penalty for stealing a crust of bread. Judge Dredd in
> > action, "I yam the law!"
> > :-)
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> What's mine is mine. The only people entitled to what I have are the people
> who I am legally obligated to share with, or who I deem worthy.
Hey, no problem with that, but if you think that entitles you to kill
somebody running off with your crust of bread, either don't buy a gun or get
a really expensive lawyer.
Bruce
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| Bruce: You're right, I should have qualified my hypotheticals better, but I DO think that Duane is right when it comes to shooting the "other" person dead -- one story, my story, means I go free. Nobody will ever hear the dead person's narrative of (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Here’s where I got this: (URL) I say more? 18-1-704 - Use of physical force in defense of a person. (1) Except as provided in subsections (2) and (3) of this section, a person is justified in using physical force upon another person in order (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: National vote on handguns?
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| (...) Bruce, you live in Kalifornia, right? You're looking at the world through blinders. MANY states pretty much allow you to shoot first and ask questions later. And if you can prove state of mind, you can walk. You need to head East every once in (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) OK, you are right with regard to the fireman situation. I should have qualified the unidentified person better. In general, if a stranger is in my home uninvited I'll be going after them with everything that I have until they are either (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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