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(...) I know this was a throw-away comment, but... One could be against the notion of ownership and still be reasonable in owning stuff under our current system. I know someone who thinks that we should accept that we are at best stewards of (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Right. One good thing Scott did, long ago, was provide a link to David Friedman's(1) site, which among many other good things, provides a good example of how natural rights don't always work out, and then demonstrates how you can use a cost (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) private (...) be (...) You know what? Not all crimes involve guns. Not all crimes involve cars. But ALL crimes involve brains. If we made it illegal to possess a brain, ALL crime would stop. We could remove brains from children as they are (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, every argument can be beaten down to some foundational principle that is a mere assertion that some may not agree with. I am not sure I have ever seen a philosophical argument that didn't ultimately break down that way. I'd be well (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (traffic (...) contradict (...) There is only one God. (Gods are simply God acting in different forms. God is also the life force that surrounds everyone. Either Way God is God and there is only one.) Considering the Constitution does not (...) (23 years ago, 24-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Bruce: No offense, but this is a rather small point you are making. Okay, okay -- reasonableness in the use of firearm is prerequisite. Fine. I don't actually think anyone is arguing with that as a foundation before deadly force is used. I have (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whose God's law? Mine or yours? Thankfully the US constitution makes it pretty clear that it stands above God's law. (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, IANAL but the text does treat someone in your domicile as a special case. Still, the class I took in Florida did go into this, and you don't get to just brandish your gun or pop off whenever you feel like, there has to be some (as Bruce (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sigh. You haven't followed the conversation have you? I have a 12 gauge and a rifle. I used to have an assortment of handguns. I've been trained by a police officer and a marine sniper. I have a sword, to boot (and yes, trained in that, too, (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Now that I have my ability to post again... The whole idea of gun control (regardless of what the majority belive) is uncostitutional. Our founding father's in their infinite wisdom drafted the constitution to protect everyone's rights from the (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just re-read the previous post. And the light came on, if a little late. Yes, whacking an intruder may put me in the legal spotlight. Yes, I may have broken other laws in the process (1). I'm willing to take that risk if it means that my (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are absolutely right. In fact, why stop there? Since so many crimes involve cars (have you ever heard of a get-away bicycle), we should ban private ownership of cars as well. And since the right to drive is not guaranteed anywhere in the (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thank heavens it wasn't you chasing Eddrick Jenkins. (...) Right. He was justified as it turned out. But if it had been a fireman he'd be hauled away. The point you are not getting is that this is about "I'm going to fire first and ask (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So then what were you arguing? You've just confused me. Where is the distinction? (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well how about this, you go and put a sign in your front yard that say "gun free home", so that way the criminal types will know that they are safe to steal bread from your house, and will stay away from my home and family. jt (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, and you get to shoot those kind of people. I wasn't arguing that. Just blasting away is on dangerous legal grounds is what I was talking about. Odds are you can get away with it. Odds are you were right. But there are enough dead innocent (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Here's a nice story for you, I'm glad this guy didn't waist time to ask if the intruder was looking for a slice of bread. Gregory Jenkins of Antioch, Tennessee, was awakened by the sound of breaking glass early Monday morning. He got out of (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oops, he simply took the whole loaf. No knife present. They cart you of to jail. Meet Bubba. (...) Oh dang, that was a woman you shot - your alibi doesn't hold up. They cart you off to jail. Bubba thinks you are cute. (...) That fireman came (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well Bruce, I'll let you in on the fact that I worked for the Fulton County Sheriff's department for 4 years, and was well trained on how to use my firearm. Also I was very aware of what intruders can do when they break into a person's home, (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He would then be cutting that crust off of the loaf of bread on the kitchen counter - he's armed with a knife. *BLAM* (...) I beleived that the intruder was about to sexually assault my wife (or even me, who knows about people these days). (...) (23 years ago, 23-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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