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  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Because people are basically good, and want to help? That's why I would and have in the past. (...) Michigan just passed a relaxed CCW law. Now, the CCW boards have to approve anyone who passes a background check and pays the fee and complies (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Being that CCW permits are next to impossible to get in most states, I wouldn't be able to help. The intent to help would be there, but I'd have to stand by and watch someone possibly die, thanks to the ridiculous laws we have. (...) program (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Not going to happen, it's too late. There are untold millions of legal guns out there. Take those away from law-abiding citizens, and you still have millions of ILlegal guns in the hands of criminals. (...) Sure it does. But life is dangerous, (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) It's too late - the market is in the untold millions already, closing the floodgates will only insure that ONLY criminals have them. If we were starting from ground zero, without millions out there, it would be a different matter. (...) I'm (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Probably too many, but you handle that by making the punishment for losing track of a gun tougher, you don't ban guns when there are already millions out there. -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support | Netscape Communications (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
GB doesn't count - they don't HAVE the massive amount of guns already easily available on the primary new and secondary new/used market. Two TOTALLY different bases to start from. (...) -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support | (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  quality of new Lego bricks (was: Another Legend dies....)
 
(...) past (...) That's right. Old bricks have been less weak and more precise. In the 1000steine.de this is called the "Kürbis-Effekt" (= pumpkin-effect), since the Halloween pumpkin has been the fist Lego set, which was delivered in really bad (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Another Legend dies....
 
(...) To be perfectly honest, it's just not something I've ever seen. I've never gotten a misprinted brick, I've never gotten a set with missing or damaged parts, I've not noticed a general decline(1) in part quality in recent years. I think I've (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Another Legend dies....
 
(...) Shame your discussion didn't take off. I for one think that the old bricks we're of a much higher quality than the new ones. I noticed this when I ordered a pack of bulk grey bricks. When built into a wall it didn't seem flat as if their we're (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Another Legend dies....
 
(...) Sorry I was just drifting into off-topic.... I have tried to start a discussion on the topic of quality of Lego in the past a few times, but most people seem to agree with you, that this is a minor problem. (I am of the opposite opinion!) (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: *Child* Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) on a related note (well, somewhat at least) The preacher at my church asked how many people in the congregation had been involved in automobile accidents...out of a group of about fifty people, just under a dozen raised their hands. (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) For the moment, yes. Are you concerned that there may actually be a sound reason that people should maintain the ability to defend themselves? (...) Though I am not well read on this issue, I can imagine many reasons why arms may not have been (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Spot on. Those that sacrifice freedom for peace shall have neither. (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Heh, if I'm not mistaken, the prefered *get-away* method is the use of an automobile... (...) Well, of course, that explains why so *few* people die in automobile accidents. And certainly no under-age drivers ever get ahold of a vehicle and go (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Just out of curiosity, is there any basis for this assertion? Or real-world precedent, other than romanticized and falacious notions of the "Old West?" (...) Why should a witness feel a need to stop a crime, thereby placing himself in harms' (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Kind of like the old west, eh? Oh wait, that was called the Wild West for a reason. You'd even more people shooting each other for trivial reasons than they do now. God only knows the carnage that would happen on the freeways. I mean in excess (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Which is a violation of the constitution. (...) Which is a violation of the constitution. (...) It should be training for none. Chris (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
Dan, please stop profaning here. In the thread about eduporn you keep profaning but using an asterix in place of one letter. I don't buy that that is appropriate. In this note you didn't even bother. Please do. (...) I prefer to have better than the (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: *Child* Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) shocking. Do you mean this: Based on 1998 data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, over 37% of the 866 people who died from unintentional firearm wounds were under the age of 21 ? Shockingly low if you compare it to what (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Like the BATF? I agree. (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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