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Re: Another Legend dies....
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:55:48 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Bryan Kinkel writes:
> Ben,
> Are changing your argument against re-releases from an issue of
> collectability to an issue of quality control???
Sorry I was just drifting into off-topic....
I have tried to start a discussion on the topic of quality of Lego in the past
a few times, but most people seem to agree with you, that this is a minor
problem. (I am of the opposite opinion!)
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> Yes, we have seen problems with production runs of train bases, some alleged
> printing smudgy-ness on 10000 flags, Indian horses in the 10000 boxes, etc.
> I'm sure these issues will be worked out over time. Big deal. If you get a
> sub-par part, Lego has always been there to rectify the situation.
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> But are these production problems going to stop me from buying a 10001
> Metroliner? No way.
> Do I consider these quality problems major? No. They are very minor and will
> be fixed, I'm sure.
I fear they won't. Lego is buying lower quality ABS from Bayer® as we have
recently heared. And they are under pressure to produce cheaper (faster). In
result the machines have shorter moulding cycles and the parts are of
(much) lower quality.
> And I'm sure Lego would be more than happy to send Christian a new maiden
> mini-figure.
> > This is another typical example for the new Lego quality standard, which I • was
> > refering to
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> I have seen your pictures in Brickshelf, but I don't think there has been
> much active discussion about quality control. At least in the forums I
> follow (.general, .trains, .marketplace) (but feel free to direct me to the
> threads if I'm wrong.)
I can't discuss with myself about this on lugnet, but have tried to start a
discussion more than once: at least most of the german AFOLs are very concerned
about this topic.
> > The minifig is from the re-release of the Guarded Inn and
> > demonstrates why I really not will have to worry about new Metroliners at
> > all....
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> I don't get this point. What do you have to worry about with the new
> Metroliners? That they will decrease the "value" of your collection?
The main points are the ones as given before:
- a re-released legend is a dead legend in my eyes (=> see discussion on
Lugnet.castle, link in original posting).
- a new good set (or a colour modification of the ML) would have been much more
helpful for MOCs (and wouldn't have hurt anybody at all).
I think in this discussion almost all arguments have exchanged at this
point. It's now just riding a dead horse. But I still have not heared one good
reason, why a 100% copy of the 4558 is neccessary. Builder and kids could live
with evident modifications as well as anybody else.
Anyway: I do not like speculators and I do not understand MISB collectors. But
sometimes I have fun to "offend" people a little (I fear offend is the wrong
vocabulary). It can be quite useful in a discussion to stand on a point which
is not your own....
Be sure I'm not too upset about the re-releases of the ML and GI sets, but I
still doubt the legends to be a good development.
Kind Regards,
Ben
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) Shame your discussion didn't take off. I for one think that the old bricks we're of a much higher quality than the new ones. I noticed this when I ordered a pack of bulk grey bricks. When built into a wall it didn't seem flat as if their we're (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Ok, here's one reason against a different color 4558: For the US market, 4558 represents one of the most likely to be recognizeable passenger trains to today's kids. I was just thinking the other day that perhaps one reason that there have (...) (23 years ago, 17-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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