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| | | (...) Wow, thanks for pointing that out. I guess I'll hafta start calling it the young Obi-Wan/Luke head. :) (...) There'll be quite a few in AucZILLA XII, which will consist mostly of SW sets. :) --Todd (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | (...) Or you could call it Star Wars Grumpy-Face #5. Why are the main character mini-figs in the Star Wars sets universal in their look of unhappiness? The background characters seem generally cheerful. Steve Bliss (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | (...) Well if you had to fight the tirany and injustice of the Empire you probably wouldn't be very happy either :-). Plus being a Jedi is serious business. As for the background characters I don't know. Maybe if they hadn't been so happy and (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) Obi Wan's not *exactly* what I would call alive. (...) How about: B-Wing Pilot - Happy - some alive, some dead Rebel Tech - serious - probably alive Anakin Skywalker - serious - turned to the dark side Darth Vader - serious - not alive Padme (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I'd like to know how you support this statement. Here's what we know about Amidala's future: She has a love affair with Anakin Skywalker (may or may NOT get married) and becomes pregnant with his twin children. She was around at least long (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Rob Wood
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Doesn't Leia say in ROTJ that her mother died when she was very young? (...) thoughts (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) And Darth Vader murdered Luke's father. Can't believe everything someone tells you. ;) Steve (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Huh. I'll have to go back and listen more closely. (...) That's the real problem- it's easy to tell Leia that her mother died, so has to go live with the Organa household, and shouldn't expect to dsee her again. hen Leia tells Luke her mother (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Steven Vore
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Here's the section in question: LUKE Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother? LEIA Just a little bit. She died when I was very young. LUKE What do you remember? LEIA Just...images, really. Feelings. LUKE Tell me. LEIA (a little (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) ***snip of Ben's monologue***> (...) I'm almost entirely certain that most of Ben's long speech does not appear in the film, because it would be terribly conspicuous piece of narrative exposition, much of it irrelevant to the story at hand, (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Steven Vore wrote: < Snipped initial dialog > (...) This section is not in the movie. I would have picked up the political cues. Where did you get this from? Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Jonathan Little
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I recently read the three novelizations of the movies and this was in the that. I can't remember the author of this one (is it RoJ?), but I know it was in one of the three (not the movie, but the book) because I remember thinking that I didn't (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Really? That's interesting. I never read the novels before. Do they have more detail? I think the movies were good, but the plot line was severely lacking. Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Jonathan Little
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) was (...) thinking (...) The first one,which was written by Lucas, had a couple of things that i don't remember being in the movie. The second one was pretty much the same as the movie. The third one had a lot of little things that I don't (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Jeff Johnston
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Actually, Alan Dean Foster ghostwriting for Lucas. J (25 years ago, 27-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Steven Vore
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Scott wrote ... (...) I honestly don't recall. At one point, about 6 months ago, I did a search on the web for "Star Wars" and "script" and found 'em in .rtf format. I don't know their source, but they do appear to be from somewhere in the middle of (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Oh, brother. Such a contrived piece of melodrama would destroy what little of George's dramatic integrity has withstood the whole JarJar debacle. One might as easily assert that Chewbacca is Leia's mother, since we have no film- based evidence (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Funny, that's what I thought when the whole "I am your father, Luke" thing came out. What a contrived, crummy plot twist. The worst part is that (to me) it really feels like it was a notion that occurred to Lucas *after* Star Wars was (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) The only thing mitigating the Vader/Father deal is that, at the time, that sort of silliness wasn't *too* widespread in film, though you're right; it's still pretty campy. (...) Yeah, I can't argue with you there. I can almost swallow the (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Stuart Curtis
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) film- (...) If I recall correctly from assorted interviews with George Lucas and Gary Kurtz (producer), the point of the story initially was the father-son conflict - however, as the script grew too big for just one film, Lucas was forced to (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | <snip> (...) <snip> I read a story from Anthony Daniels's Wonder Column in Star Wars Insider magazine. He said that what was actually said was something like, "Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday!" and then Mark Hamill had to act really (...) (25 years ago, 27-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | I AM your Father! (was: Young Obi-Wan's Head) —John J. Ladasky, Jr.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Say, have y'all seen Toy Story II yet? 8^) I heard Buzz Lightyear say, "You killed my father," to Emperor Zerg, and knew EXACTLY what would be said next. I couldn't help but joining in with old Zerg as he replied, then laughing my fool head (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Jonathan Little
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I've always though that Leia's mom was really Boba Fett and that the reason he (or she, if you believe this theory) was so adamant about giving Han over to Jabba is because she didn't feel that Han was right for her daughter, Leia. :) (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Like Rob said, Leia told Luke their mother died when she was young. And see my reply to Rob. Steve (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Bill Farkas
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) thoughts (...) As for Amidala possibly being alive, I don't agree, I think she ends up dead and it has something to do with a jedi mistake (or possibly at the hand of the emperor who blames it on the jedi to turn Anakin). I think this is what (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Steven Vore
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| | | | | | | | | | Bill wrote (...) dead (...) don't we all? -- -Steven "Nothin' But Net!" (URL) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Bill Farkas
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) included in my message. Bill (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | | | (...) ...but redeemed in the end, and ends up as Obi-Wanish "spirit" presence (...) Biker Scouts: - serious - most decidedly dead or imprisoned. Jar Jar Binks: - how can you tell, but kind of staid - unfortunately alive Kaadus: - same deal - ditto (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) Ghosts are still dead. (...) I didn't count these guys or Boba Fett, because they have no real faces. (...) Funny thing -- in the picture on the set box cover, he looks happy. (...) Leia actually looks more constipated than serious. See my (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) Oops, my bad--these speed-trap cops have faces, and they are not happy. Steve (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Steven Vore
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| | | | | | | (...) Maybe they've been taking lessons from the Adventurers (who, my wife and I were just noticing last night) are downright angry. -Steven (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Matthew Wilkins
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| | | | | | | | (...) I was looking at Johnny Thunder last night myself and noticed that, for a hero, he's a pretty uptight-looking fellow. I'm kind of a latecomer to the Adventurers scene, but man alive! It's sort of hard to tell the players without a scorecard! (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.adventurers)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) I think of Johnny Thunder as smarmy. If I were to re-enact a stereotypical silent movie in LEGO (such as: heroine tied to train tracks by ev-il villian, rescued by virtuous hero), Johnny would be the villian. Steve (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.adventurers)
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| | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | (...) It struck me that many of the characters (original Luke-head, Young Obi-Wan head, Old Obi-Wan, Padme, etc) are sort of expression-neutral. Their faces would be as appropriate for playing out happy scenarios as playing out bad ones. After all, (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) Nah, it'd be very LEGO-ish. Steve (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Young Obi-Wan's Head —David Simmons
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| | | | | | (...) their (...) Maybe they're tired of being surrounded by nothing but duplicates of themselves (meaning TLG should make more background characters so we won't have to figure out what to do with all those platoons of Luke's)! Dave (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: I AM your Father! (was: Young Obi-Wan's Head) —John J. Ladasky, Jr.
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| | | | | Oops. In lugnet.starwars, I wrote: [a message that belonged, and then] (...) [followed by a message that DIDN't belong] Sorry, folks, I got carried away with the "paste" button!" -- John J. Ladasky Jr., Ph.D. Department of Structural Biology (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: I AM your Father! (was: Young Obi-Wan's Head) —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) Yep. Lighter-weight than the first movie, although the massive jabs at toy collectors were heavily appreciated. Generally, mucho entertaining. (...) Yeah, I was rolling around at that point, too. (...) Hasn't everybody been laughing at (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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