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    Names of things. —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) Just out of curiousity, how do you know what the *original* names are? Or, how do you know that the "seppo" (as you so charmingly call it) names *aren't* the original names? I'd argue that many times, they are... for example all the Star (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
   
        Re: Names of things. —Richie Dulin
     (...) Incorrectly named because the set is a loco and not a train? True, but a far more glaring error is the Skull's Eye Schooner! And of course, the Black Seas Barracuda (or Dark Shark, for that matter) is not a fish either ;-) Cheers Richie (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Ya, but I was using it an example of a set that has a name that's American and that it would be hard to argue that it should have any other name whatever. (...) Sure... I agree. Not my point though, which is this: What makes Dark Shark the (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Richie Dulin
     (...) I was commented on why/how it was incorrectly named... not about where it came from. (...) I don't know. That wasn't my point though, which is on this: on the basis that the Santa Fe Super Chief is incorrectly named, so are the Skull's Eye (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Well sure. I agree! But, see, I'm not arguing with *you*!!! I'm disputing the assertion that BSB is the "wrong" name but Dark Shark is the "right" name which was made upthread. I see no prima facie basis for that assertion, and was asking for (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Richie Dulin
     (...) Cool. (...) Good. (...) Any 6285 distributed by LEGO Australia would be correctly called a 'Dark Shark'. It would therefore be the original name *in Australia*. Private imports may well be BSBs, and the rerelease is definitely a BSB. But of (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)  
    
         Re: Names of things. —Ross Crawford
      (...) Big Sonnofa Brig? ROSCO (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) OK, now you're making the assertion too, and just as unsupportedly. Granted that LEGO originally released this set with multiple names in english speaking countries... they apparently have now decided to use just one. What makes your statement (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Pete White
      (...) I'm with Larry on this. While that Santa Fe Super Chief is based on a real world object, Lego are just tagging Lego creations with a hopefully marketable identifier. The 6285 I possess is a USA edition and has the name Black Seas Barracuda on (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
     
          Re: Names of things. —Paul Baulch
       "pete white" <aquanaut@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:H3tExp.LLu@lugnet.com... (...) *say* (...) what (...) Well, that would be more appropriate than everyone having to learn (and converse in) American.... after all, it's a Danish product. (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
     
          Re: Names of things. —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) No, it's a universal product made by a Danish multinational which, for the most part, uses English as their internal working language. (not American, mind you, but English... your prejudice is showing through) Most multinationals these days (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
     
          Re: Names of things. —Benjamin Whytcross
      (...) I would have to debate that one...most of the "English" used is American as shown by their mis-spelling of several words [colour being a prime example.] Benjamin Whytcross (22 years ago, 12-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Richie Dulin
     (...) Because I have a catalog, distributed by LEGO Australia. Calling it a Dark Shark. (...) Absolutely. And they called it 'Dark Shark' in Australia. (...) I'm not whinging about it! Just pointing out that in Australia, the correct name - as (...) (22 years ago, 12-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Larry Pieniazek
     Richie, I think this will be my last response to you. If Ben chooses to respond I will respond to that, but I am now starting to wonder if you're deliberately misinterpreting what I am saying, for whatever reason. Let's go back to what Ben said, (...) (22 years ago, 12-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Benjamin Whytcross
     (...) And note that I almost entirely post in .loc.au and that this was the forum used, and the message was intended for an Aussie audience. After all, I COULD have posted in .general if I was arguing with the rest of the world. [As a side note, do (...) (22 years ago, 12-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Ross Crawford
      (...) Excluding catalogs of course, which *do* have set names, and would thus require extra expense in (at least) Aus as well... ROSCO (22 years ago, 12-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Colby Chapman
      <respectfully snipped> (...) </end respectfully snipped> I have totally different catalogues, I did collect them while living in Queensland. But the most interesting thing is that some of them are printed in Germany. Unfortunely I don't have the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Pete White
      (...) I have a catalogue which spells 6286 "The Black Scull". (22 years ago, 14-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
     
          Re: Names of things. —Richie Dulin
      (...) Yep. That's the one with paired oars ;-) Cheers Richie (22 years ago, 14-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Noted. However qualification still would have been helpful. Saying "most people", without qualification, even in an Australia specific forum, is hopelessly Australia centric. (...) You're preaching to the choir, I've always agreed with you and (...) (22 years ago, 14-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
   
        Re: Names of things. —Ross Crawford
   (...) Ah, but what *you* see on sale and what *we* see on sale are two very different things! ROSCO (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
   
        Re: Names of things. —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) "on sale" in this context means "available for sale in the stores" not "discounted heavily". The point here is, why ask for a 2000 set to be reissued? It was in stores not that long ago at all. It doesn't make any sense to me when there are (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
   
        Re: Names of things. —Ross Crawford
     (...) Which is the context I assumed in the post... (...) Well on that point I probably agree, however I think Ben might've meant "show up at retail somewhere again", as flash speeders have been pretty thin on the ground here for a while. ROSCO (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Benjamin Whytcross
     (...) Yep, you got that one right...I haven't seen one in a store for several months...let alone seeing one on sale. [In fact, I think the last time I saw one was about Feb this year ! ] Either LA didn't order many in or there was a small production (...) (22 years ago, 12-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
   
        Re: Names of things. —Richie Dulin
     (...) An Australian sense of humour, I suspect. Although the smiley should have been a give away. (...) Same reason I can sign off a post with 'Quester for a 40% off Imperial Star Destroyer'. Sure, it's not actually going to happen*, but it would be (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
   
        Re: Names of things. —Travis Matheson
     (...) I saw a few in the Horsham Toyworld a few months back, but not on sale at all, just regular shelf price. But I haven't been in there for some time, but they may still be there, I'll / have someone else, have to check, for them Wouldn't mind (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Ross Crawford
      (...) Talk to a BUG - there was a toyworld up there somewhere that had em for around $4 in june. ROSCO (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
     
          Re: Names of things. —Allister McLaren
      (...) I was down at the Toyworld Suerstore in Springwood (Brisbane) about 4 weeks ago and they still had cases and cases of them, and I think the Myer centre Toyworld might even still have some. Still $3.99. A bargain. mmm, wouldn't mind a few more (...) (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
     
          Re: Names of things. —Allister McLaren
       Just confirming that Toyworld in the Myer centre (Brisbane) does indeed have the Island Racers in large quantities for $3.99. Just went and picked up a few. How many do you want? Allister. (...) (22 years ago, 14-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
     
          Re: Names of things. —Travis Matheson
      (...) gee, decisions, decisions. 6 or 7 would be good. yes, 7, 7 works well with me ;-) please drop me a line at trav@centercom.com.au to discuss payment methods I guess, unless you are just being generous! When I rule the globe all Australians will (...) (22 years ago, 14-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Benjamin Whytcross
      (...) Well, I THINK Broadmeadows toy-kingdom has them at $4.99 [from memory]...though if you don't need more than a half dozen or so, I have spare white epaulets here [and possibly yellow, red, brown and blue.] That said, another few Barons would (...) (22 years ago, 12-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
    
         Re: Names of things. —Travis Matheson
     (...) well, it's not so much need as it is want, but hey, see what comes. (...) the new 2003 lineup contains a few adventures sets so hopefully there will be a few more small polybag size sets coming out (...) please fell free to count Xavier Prime (...) (22 years ago, 12-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
   
        Re: Names of things. —Travis Matheson
   (...) I got a Millenium Falcon with 20% off when they were first released so it is possible Travis (22 years ago, 11-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.au)
 

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