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| | | Saw my first copy of the MB Aircraft Carrier today. Picked up the box....certainly is heavy. Nice alternate models on the back too, one looked like a bulk-carrier or oil tanker, I guess the F-14's just sadly circle above it until they run out of (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | Re: MB sightings —Craig Roberts
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| | | | | There are some very good MB sets nice red helicopter has about 850 pieces most red about 300 angle pieces make great roofs bit cheaper than lego but just as good, also Toys R Us 25% off all lego look out Visa Card. (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | Re: MB sightings —Peter White
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| | | | | | In lugnet.loc.au, Craig Roberts writes: Hi Craig, There have been get-togethers in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Hobart this year. Hopefully Adelaide and Perth will manage some as well. If your in one of these places, think about coming to a (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | Re: MB sightings —Craig Roberts
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| | | | | | | Hi Peter, Would love to attend one of the lego meetings but live in Canberra so bit hard maybe one day have one here, yes MB okay but will always stay true to lego never stray to far. Wish Lego was as cheap though as MB. (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | | Fests ahoy! (was: MB sightings) —James Howse
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| | | | | | | | (...) In order to hi-jack this tread and purge it of it's heretical musings I will mention that there is a tentative get-together penciled in for a place near Bowral next Feb. It's a bit closer than Syd, hope you can make it. OTOH if you're a (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | Re: MB sightings —Kerry Raymond
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| | | | | | (...) I went to TRU this morning to see if there was any Lego of interest at 25% off. Well, lets be honest, I was thinking specifically of the new Silver Champion. However, when I got there, I saw the Silver Champion shelf-priced at $320. Great, I (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | Re: MB sightings —Craig Roberts
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| | | | | | Hi Kerry, With prices like that you wonder if it is worth going over to the dark side the force is strong in me but is it that strong, mmmm only time will tell. Some of the MB sets are not bad give them a few years to improve the quality and look (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | Re: MB sightings —Santosh Bhat
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| | | | | | Imagine if Megablocks were to start making decent town sets, or train sets. I think Lego would rue the day they decided to let this side of their business falter. Perhaps Lego will come out with a cyber version of their products instead of (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | Re: MB sightings —Richard Parsons
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| | | | (...) When we say a tan tank, do we mean a thingie with large black wheels (as per their site (URL) micro, probuilder, 9761), or a tan version of the tracked thingie (etc etc 9707)? Richard Still baldly building an army... (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | Re: MB sightings —Peter White
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| | | | (...) 9761 actually (sorry to get you excited), I'm sure a hybrid model could achieve a tan version of 9707. Just a short word about the MB site(and I thought the Lego site was useless), who designs these things, I certainly hope they don't get paid (...) (24 years ago, 4-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | Re: MB sightings —Kerry Raymond
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| | | | (...) useless), (...) Indeed, thank goodness we have LUGnet to make up for Lego's useless WWW site. Will a MBnet emerge? Or will LUGnet include the MB sets in the database and news hierarchy etc? And who's brave enough to ask Todd? Kerry (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | Re: MB sightings —Todd Lehman
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| | | | (...) LUGNET is based on LEGO(R) products and will not have MEGA BLOKS in its database. --Todd (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | Re: MB sightings —Kerry Raymond
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| | | | | (...) Rather proves my point, doesn't it? :-) Kerry (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | (...) This seems like an unnecessarily severe attitude to take. I say we should have both a Tyco and a Mega Bloks clones database link from at least the off- topic clone-brands section of Lugnet. If one is interested one can find it; if one is not (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Dan Boger
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| | | | | (...) personally, I think there's no room for such a DB on lugnet. If you want to start up your own DB offsite, then perhaps Todd would put a link from off-topic.clones to your DB - but I don't think it should be on site. (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | | Yes, I agree with Dan. I think a link to an off-site database or clone portal would be very useful information. Even the rtl LEGO FAQ page had a section of clones information. (URL) no, I find no reason that the database or any other information (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) link to that. It doesn't need to be hosted on lugnet.com. (...) Me neither. (...) 152 by my count -- and 144 if you ignore the "Are you paying attention..." thread. But even if it were 1000 -- LUGNET is about LEGO(R) user groups and detailed (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | (...) One reason I would like to see a clone database hosted by Lugnet would so that it could have a consistent feel. Todd has gone to a lot of effort to produce a good set database engine, why squander that effort only on LEGO brand sets? If Todd (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | | | (...) AND... (...) How is it that Frank asks perfectly reasonable and polite questions and still gets no response? I, for one, do not see the matter as wholly settled -- nor have I been satisfied with the nature of Todd's other AND still rather (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Richard W. Schamus
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| | | | | | | (...) Richard, As much as I, you or anyone else would like or bennefit from such an expansion of LUGNET, we have have to understand a couple of realities as far as LUGNET is concerned. Before I expand on this, allow me to put forth a few (...) (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I have feared this might be true (although I suppose it remains an unknown quantity for the moment). If it were to happen -- I would not likely participate. It's one thing to provide content in these threads as a legos user talking with other (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Richard W. Schamus
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Perhaps, since I've been speculating, I'll speculate a bit more. *If* either of these wonderful internet intsitutions ever come directly under the "banner" of TLC it does not mean that they would control the content. It is my hope and belief (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Really? Cool! What kind of MB parts were used? Does anyone have pictures? Dave! (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | | Richard Schamus wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Gosh, I hope not. Yes, at some point a fraction of each places contents could be made obsolete by TLC's site, but some things to consider: - I doubt TLC will have a better interface than either site. (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) Uhhhh, in a word: NOT. --Todd (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Richard W. Schamus
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| | | | | | | | (...) And there you have it. Not quite as likely as once thought. (Hmm... I wrote the above weeks ago... I must be getting slower...) Thank you for you word of clarification Todd. Rich -- Have Fun! C-Ya! Legoman34 ***** Legoman34 (Richard W. (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Joseph Gonzalez
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| | | | | | (...) this is an interesting thread. if someone decides to start a database site i would be glad to pass over everything on my constructions clones site (or whatever is deemed useful). i think there is enough info for a good start (i've got quite a (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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| | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Kerry Raymond
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| | | | | (...) but (...) Blimey, I make a humorous off-the-cuff comment in the Australia newsgroup and next thing I know it's all set to become World War 3 in other groups. Perhaps we should put a warning on the Australian newsgroup along the following lines (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | Warning: Australians (Re: Clones Database) —Richard Parsons
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| | | | | | (...) Maybe include a reference to a national fondness for robust discourse and colourful language, and a general suspicion of delicate sensibilities? I like it :-) Richard Still baldly going... And I do realise that I rather inflamed the situation (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | (...) It costs money to run a server. You wanna throw your own money at hosting content related to imitation brands, go right ahead. There are plenty of hosting services. (...) I agree. (...) I'm not against helping people find information about (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database) —Richard Parsons
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| | | | | (...) Before Todd wears yet another hammering, a quick note in support, feel free to hunt me instead. Contrary to the culture of entitlement popular in the US (you know, I'm owed stuff just 'cause I'm here, ne'er-do-wells protesting 'I have rights' (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database) —Jason Rowoldt
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| | | | | | | Hey, I think Todd was being overly polite there (see: Are we being to nice?). What he <b>could</b> have said is: "**** off, this is LUGNET. This is our site. We will host what we want to host. You want register MegaBlocksUG or TycoUG .com? Go ahead, (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database) —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | | | | (...) I have a real problem with Lugnet being considered Todd and Suzanne's exclusive sandbox -- in reality, it is and it isn't depending on what part we are examining. People contribute time, money, content, scans, etc. It strikes me as a community (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database) —Shiri Dori
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Oh, certainly!! Neither Todd nor Richard are saying that. I think the inference is that everyone hanging out here is part of the community; but the sandbox itself? Yep, that's Todd and Suz's only. And ultimately, if they decide they don't want (...) (24 years ago, 6-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Dan & Jenn Boger do, yes -- and have done incredibly huge great things in the past few months for the data in the DB. Selçuk Göre and Joshua Delahunty also have access and have done huge great things too. --Todd (24 years ago, 7-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database) —David Eaton
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| | | | | | | | | Well, just to throw in $.02 here, I'd be curious to see a clone database, and I might even use it from time to time. However, two things: A. If we view it as Todd & Suz's sandbox, it's their choice. B. If we see them as fulfilling our needs/wants in (...) (24 years ago, 7-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | (...) It's not in the business plan. (...) It's also a matter of principle. (...) LUGNET would not be LUGNET. (...) --Todd (also baldly going :-) (24 years ago, 7-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database) —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | | | (...) No reasons?..:-) What do you think that this "L" of Lugnet stands for?..:-) Selçuk (24 years ago, 7-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database) —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | | | | | (...) Well, if there isn't support for a clones database that's fine. But I still think that the L stands for "legos" in the generic plastic brick meaning -- at least for most people that see it. Most are not purists, especially from the outside. (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | | | | Treacleheads (was Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database)) —David Low
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Warning: exactly the kind of post that should go to .o-t.vent follows. So I've o-t.d'ed, but since this <treacley juggernaut> of a thread is still in .au, I'm not holding back. And I should say that I'm more than a bit <treacley>'d off with a (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Parts one and three of this argument only hold true if you decide in advance that they're true. If, as a LEGO user, I identify a single brick as "a Lego," why is it grammatically incorrect to refer to several bricks as "Legos?" Forget about (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Are they the only thing keeping LEGO from complacency, or are they driving LEGO to juniorise the heck out of everything? If they didn't have to contend with competition, would they be dumbing down their sets, or would they be producing (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) My take is that LEGO's trend toward Juniorization would continue with or without market competition, since we have evidence of its roots long before any serious competitor hit the market. LEGO can't blame (not that they do) their own reduced (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads —David Low
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) (assuming it's an open question...) Could you ever have a total, _total_ competition vacuum? Because if there's a market, there's kids, and if there's kids there's no vacuum since they can always make up their own games. And if they couldn't (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I don't really think so, no. Because to have a total competition vacuum assumes that you're talking about a company that makes boxes full of elements and hands them to kids in a round grey room with absolutely nothing else to do. I guess a (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads —David Low
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Absolutely, which why it's In My Humble Opinion. (...) I would argue (and again, this is entirely the way it works in my fat head)that you, as a LEGO user, would be as wrong (or right) to identify a single brick as "a Lego" as you would be if (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Fair enough, but you must agree that because of that circular reasoning the argument won't convince anyone who doesn't already agree with it. (...) I understand and accept that, but many people identify LEGO as a singular noun in that usage, (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads —David Low
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I am so _not_ going to get in a cultural relativism argument over grammar and aesthetics. I'm a liberal in principle and a conservative in practice (except for anything from the seventies). (...) Yeah, it's not really a disagreement. I know (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Huh? The argument is circular whether viewed from a cultural relativist standpoint or not. (...) I understand that you're working on very little sleep, but to proclaim someone's lexicon as "illiterate garble" just because it doesn't adhere to (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads —David Low
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Okay. The decision in advance that "a usage is wrong" is subjective (and legitimately so) from the relativist viewpoint. And you're right, it will only appeal to people sharing those cultural norms of grammar and aesthetics (hence the (...) (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads (was Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database)) —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) It's wrong, but not for that reason. It's wrong because it's an adjective, and adjectives don't really have plurals. But in popular usuage, it's a noun, and there's no reason for it to not have a regular plural. And people do say "I drank a (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads (was Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database)) —David Low
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Thank you Matthew. And because I've had two hours sleep in about forty I'll just point out that 1. fast and red are in fact adjectives, hence the first example, and 2. Coke is a trademark and a proper noun (like LEGO) hence the second example. (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads (was Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database)) —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) It's normal language behavior. People call Netscape Navigator "netscape". I even know people who (not so much now, but a few years ago) call Microsoft Word "microsoft". No one says "may I have a kleenex facial tissue". It's natural to treat (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads (was Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database)) —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | | | | | Dave Low wrote: Just for being clear, I already share your arguments that I snipped, and I already give some comments in my posts about it, but I have some objections here..:-) (...) Are you sure?..:-) All the non lego people around here (who (...) (24 years ago, 9-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Treacleheads (was Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database)) —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I didn't realize they'd heard of "Lego Lar" in Turkey. Wow, he gets around. ;^D ~Mark "Muffin Head" Sandlin -- Mark's Lego Creations (URL) (24 years ago, 9-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database) —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | | | "Overview and Definitions lugnet.com (“LUGNET”) is a privately owned Internet site designed and run primarily for the benefit of those who enjoy building with, discussing, collecting, buying & selling, trading, and exchanging information about (...) (24 years ago, 9-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Hear Hear. Very well put, Richard. I would hasten to add that the contribution of time, money, scans, information, etc. to Lugnet is subject to the Terms and Conditions, just like participation here. Merely contributing something doesn't give (...) (24 years ago, 7-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database) —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | (...) But even then we come back to the fact that Todd is paying to run the server, and paying for the traffic. If he just plain doesn't want Lugnet to host scans of clone instructions or catalogues, then it won't. Of course, meanwhile, there are (...) (24 years ago, 7-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Sticking it to Todd (was Re: Clones Database) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Most definitely. I was referring to Todd's stated intent (from way back...) that he might at some point place the code that runs LUGNET or parts of it under GPL. (that's probably an incorrect paraphrase of what he said, though, I think it was (...) (24 years ago, 7-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.db.scans)
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| | | | | | Re: Clones Database (was Re: MB sightings) —Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) Even inasmuch as I'm a huge fan of clone brands, I have to agree that LUGNET is a resource primarily for LEGO users. The space provided in off-topic.clone-brands is sufficient for the few fringe discussions that pop up. (...) Whatever else you (...) (24 years ago, 7-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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