 | | Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Andreas Stabno
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| | | (...) Jeremy, I will be more than happy to remove your address from my list, but a simple email could have been a little more effective and to the point. Perhaps you did not read past the first part of my message: "In all likelihood you have dealt (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Dan Boger
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| | | | | (...) perhaps you'd be better off, before adding someone to your list, make sure they want to be there? as in, when completeing a deal, ask "would you want me to notify you of future sales I have" or something like that... make the list opt-in, and (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | "Andreas Stabno" <stabno@megsinet.net> wrote in message news:G1GECG.5qK@lugnet.com... (...) a (...) I agree here. (...) buying (...) list, (...) receive (...) glad to (...) say (...) Many (...) be (...) I would stand behind Andreas here - though I (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | (...) In my professional opinion, it is definitely Unsolicited Commercial Email (UCE), which is definitely SPAM. Before you ask, yes, there was a time when a major ISP payed me to determine things like this. (...) Doesn't matter the source, the fact (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | Though I can't (nor do I want to) refute your definition of spam, I feel that in this situation -- Lugnet being the 'friendliest place on the web' -- a little patience is in order. Is spam bad? Yes. Are unsolicited phone calls bad? Yes. Am I adamant (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | (...) I don't mean to drag this thread out, cos lord knows it's gone on long enough already, but I really have to disagree. I've been seeing a lot of people toe the same line you are- that because it come from someone on Lugnet, and they were (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) c/payed/paid/ unless your investigations involved being lowered by rope vertically downward over the edge of buildings or cliffs, and to peer into the dens of spammers and see what they were up to (1). (2) 1 - Bond, *ERIC* Bond... and yes, he (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | (...) No, I did mean "paid". Ooops. Any hanging from ropes and peering into people's windows is strictly done on my own time. eric (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | (...) Thinking of hanging from ropes and looking into windows, several years ago, I observed that the window washers were using caving originated rapel gear to lower themselves down the wall to do the windows. (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) determine (...) the (...) Caving or climbing? I thought climbing was a bigger hobby (not *better* mind you, I know you're a caver through and through). Caver or Spelunker? The latter term is out of favor, no? Why? Rapel or Rappel? (just can't (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | (...) My understanding is that spelunkers are loser wannabes who get stuck in places they shouldn't be and have to be rescued by cavers. Or something like that. (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | (...) Caving. Rappel equipment certainly did originate with climbers, but the rappel rack is definitely a caver invention (and what I saw the window washers using is definitely a rappel rack like the kind invented by cavers). I think some climbers (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | (...) This is effective, no? Rudeness for rudeness. And I think I've made my point. *I* pay for that in-box, and I say that you need *my* permission to make money from it. Don't get defensive because you were bit on the tush for being unethical and (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | (...) I'm just curious on this how people feel about things like magazine renewal notices. In theory, they are in the same category if anything other than a notice on the magazine wrapper. My personal feeling is that I do want to receive renewal (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | What are the defining attributes of spam? If there is some universally agreed upon definition, feel free to just point me to that. Why is it that there is a positive correlation between the degree of net savvyness and spite toward spam? I've been on (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | | | This of course falls apart for most US ISPs, as they GENERALLY don't charge per message or connection time (if you have an ISP that does, GET A NEW ONE). Entirely different matter overseas, though, where often you pay for connection time. (...) -- | (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) per (...) Nah, mine charges for disk space. E-mail falls under "disk space". Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | | | | You need a new ISP. Most I've ever seen only charge if you consistently go over your mail spool. I'm allowed a 10Meg mail spool, though I swear I've gone over it by a LOT a few times. Any decent ISP will split disk space up into Spool, Account, and (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Sorry, my bad. How about Unsolicited Commercial E-mail? (...) "Raving nutcake". That's probably close -- I did become a bit unhinged when he intruded his business into my affairs. But I'd draw the line after "raving" but before "nutcake", and (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) agreed (...) Actually, I was serious. I wasn't challenging your use, just asking. (...) thinking (...) Sorry. I was trying to be funny and serious at the same time. It's a tightwire act and maybe I just fell to my death. (...) Well, I did a (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I believe that currently their use is in Martha Stewart's TV show (and other productions). However, they were catchphrases in a popular spoof history book when I was a kid called "1066 and all that" along with verdicts on various rulers (eg (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) He had the opportunity to do that while I was doing business with him. And hey, it'd have been the polite thing to do. (...) You are one mean hombre. While I am genuinely angry with Andreas' actions, I would never compare him to Publisher's (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) The protocol for handling some LEGO spam from Andreas shouldn't be. It seems a world of difference (even if it's one of degree instead of kind) from spambots latching on to you and offering nudigifs incesantly. Chris (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Rob Doucette
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| | | | | | | | | | | | "Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:G1GpwM.9qL@lugnet.com... (...) Here's a good one: (URL) sets and parts for sale or trade: (URL) (24 years ago, 29-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Ben Cox
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Don't be a hypocrite. Using this logic, you have stole my valuable time. In all honesty, I would rather delete an email than have to wade through junk like this original post in the market newsgroup. The funny thing is, the most you can (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Mark Harrison
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| | | | | | | | | Hi Chris, I started reading this thread from the beginning and quickly came to the conclusion that someone should say something to make these "lego spam haters" settle down. They are a noisy minority and I've found to my detriment that ignoring them (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | (...) I used to know of a couple of online resources, but I don't know offhand where they are or if they still exist, so I'll try to sum up: There are several different kinds of things that fall into the heading of "Spam". One of these things is (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | | Followups set to off-topic.geek (...) OK everything Eric says here is true but I just wanted to referance a book I have on the subject (Yes there is a book on it) Book: Stopping SPAM By Alan Schwartz & Simson Garfinkel Publisher O'Reilly Here is a (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Amazon.com URL-hacking tip: You can safely delete the qid= and sr= stuff as well as the session-ID at the end. "qid=" stands for (I think) "query ID" and the "ref=" is the referring category on their website (not a referring associate ID or (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) (URL) ef=aps_sr_b_1_3/103-...85-1703832 (...) "LUGNET" added to it through your URL forwarding software (Sorry if thats not the right terminology for it but that is what it appears to be to me). I will keep it in mind for future referance. (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | | (...) And those names + that publisher makes it a pretty authoritative book. (...) And Todd fixed this one. :) (...) Hurrah! (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Erik Olson
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| | | | | | | | In lugnet.general, Eric Kingsley writes about stopping SPAM It can be easy to report abuse. I regularly get the tiny satisfaction of a reply from Excite or Yahoo that they cancelled the reply-to account. Use Spamcop.net and all you have to do is (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | | (...) blacklisting, (...) I'm a proud Spamcop user too....all my zacktron.com email filters through there first - in fact, some of you may have gotten that 'email blocked by spamcop, click this link to send through' message ;-) I like Spamcop, but I (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | | | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Josh Coady
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| | | | | | Jeremy, I have to agree with every point you made perhaps a better way Andreas could have gone about it would be to post to lugnet.marketplace that he has these deals and that if anyone wanted to be notified by email in the future they should send (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | Re: Sale announcements (Was Beware more SPAM...) —Matthew Miller
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| | | | (...) Andreas, while you may mean this sincerly, this is a completely standard thing for *all* spam to say, whether you've actually have purchased from them before or not. Once you get enough spam, your eyes tend to glaze over upon seeing these (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.auction)
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