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Todd Lehman wrote in message <3663128b.28905770@l...et.com>... (...) This is true, you would need to take control.cancel and rec.toys.lego if you wanted every single cancel. You probably wouldn't want to do that, since the last statistics that I saw (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I don't think I like it either... Not because I'm morally against modifying NNTP headers on a private server (I would be in Usenet context) but because of the confusion which would ensue (more below). (...) Yeah, splitting is definitely (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) By "unwashed" I take it you mean those who haven't completed the news-posting setup? Or do you mean Larry's version of "unwashed"? (...) But doesn't that validate and/or encourage the practice of posting HTML, binaries, spam, etc.? (...) Yes, (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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I'm thinking really hard on this, but I'm not sure there is any _clean_ solution other than allowing at-will cross-posting between RTL and lugnet groups. This is because: A) NNTP guidelines indicate that the Newsgroup header should always be (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Actually, I just meant it should just *ignore* the extra entries in the Newsgroups header. But that doesn't make sense, especially after your further discussion about the evils of having separated threads spawned from cross-posted messages. (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Not that necessarily advocating the practice of moving existing messages, but it does help keep the thread intact. Which helps readers follow what's going on. It also _strongly_ encourages new followups to go where the T.P. want them to go. (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Nah, it's 100% my mistake -- I shouldn't have used the word "hosted" in the subject line -- I should have used "carried." "Should RTL be carried on this server?" (...) Aha, yes -- good point -- too much potential for accusations of elitism (in (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Hmmm. I'm not sure I like that. If I go to the trouble of explicitly saying where a message should go (and if it's somewhere that that message has every right to be) it seems like the server is making a mistake if it loses some of my (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Don't worry -- it's literally impossible for anyone to "move" rtl anywhere, short of convincing everyone (well, at least every news admin) in the world to change. (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Hey, I'M the topic police. No, seriously -- if a thread is getting out of hand and off-topic, a gentle reminder, or several, with followup-to set, should be sufficient. I don't see a need to retroactively relocate articles. (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) excellent key point! (...) Let me see if I correctly understand what you're saying. In other words, if something originates outside of this newsserver, the newsserver should map/truncate Newsgroups: rec.toys.foo,rec.toy...lugnet.foo to simply (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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Todd Lehman wrote in message <3662a9e2.2109338@lu...et.com>... (...) I don't think the Lugnet people are of the mindset to label. Excessively. (...) So it's going to be carried here but not only here? My mistake. Now I see almost no reason to argue (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) Not only possible, but IMO true. Snobbery arrives subtlely. :) (...) Ya, well, you're only saying that because it's true ;-) It seems as though a question like, "Where can I get black helmets?" ellicits an (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) That may be true. What is also true, though, is that there are specific groups here for discussing specific things. So if a nasty discussion begins those people can always be encouraged to move it to off-topic.debate and keep it out of the (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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Steve/Larry, I think these are good additions/changes... --Todd (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Linc has brought up some good ideas. Also, I believe there is already a link to the lugnet main page from Michael Dorneich's Everything Lego page, which every Lego newbie will find sooner or later. (...) Since there is such a concern that (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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Kevin Loch wrote in message <3660DF05.1B45@NOSPMkl.net>... (...) No, because people will crosspost. If I wanted to read RTL I'd do so directly. Alternatively, yes, as long as crossposts are rejected. Moz (26 years ago, 29-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I'd say the possibility of cross-posting between the lugnet groups and rec.toys.lego is a _good_ thing, in terms of allowing lugnet to support RTL, rather than detracting from it. That way (for example), announcements can be cross-posted. And (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Maybe "Everyone can read the lugnet postings, but before posting new messages, you must agree to follow some basic rules of netiquette and agree to conditions of use."? (...) ... or missed messages because your ISP didn't pick up some (...) (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Should be about 1/4 tile. More or less. Steve (26 years ago, 30-Nov-98, to lugnet.general)
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